http:// New blogs from Tattoo_Gypsy on MyFox Orlando Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:37:13 GMT Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:37:13 GMT wofl_web_producers@foxtv.com (WOFLweb) wofl_web_producers@foxtv.com (WOFLweb) KickApps Feed Builder 2009-07-20T16:37:13Z 112 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/searchEverything.kickAction?as=72667&sortType=recent 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Obamas-Own-Say-Hes-WRONG/BLOG/448390/72667.html Even Obama and Nancy Pelosi'd own people say that the Democrats massive national healthcare plan will NOT reduce anybody's costs.Instead, it will INCREASE COSTS for your family, my family, your family, small businesses, and every American taxpayer out there."Throughout this debate, President Obama has spoken of the need to "bend the cost curve" or drive health care costs down. During a congressional hearing, however, Mr. Elmendorf testified that the Democrats’ plans would have the opposite effect, saying that under their proposals, "The curve is being raised" and costs would "significantly expand.""That’s because the Democrats’ plan adds a new layer of taxes, mandates, and bureaucracy on top of the current system. If that’s not bad enough, the Democrats’ plan cuts Medicare and takes away choices for millions of seniors. What does all of this mean? Higher costs for the medicine and treatments you need. ""Dr. Christina Romer, the chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, states the government takeover would cost Americans 4.7 million jobs over the next 10 years. "So who exactly are these people of Obama's and Speaker Nancy Pelosi's that are directly contradicting the Messiah?http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/cea/members/"Christina Romer is Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers. Romer was the Class of 1957-Garff B. Wilson Professor of Economics at the University of California Berkeley. Before teaching at Berkeley, she taught economics and public affairs at Princeton University from 1985-1988.Until her nomination, she was co-director of the Program in Monetary Economics at the National Bureau of Economic Research and served as Vice President of the American Economic Association, where she was also a member of the executive committee."Kinda looks like she knows her chit. And exactly who is Douglas W. Elmendorf?http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Douglas_W._Elmendorf"Elmendorf may be the most important financial analyst in America. He’s not one of the highest paid, but his client list is the U. S. Congress as he evaluates the nation’s budget in trying economic times. He will be a key player in determining how Congress responds to President Barack Obama’s proposed $3.6 trillion budget for fiscal year 2010.Succeeding new Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag, Elmendorf joined the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as the struggling economy commanded much of Congress’ time. Like Orszag, he comes from the liberal think-tank the Brookings Institution, and was the former director of the Hamilton Project, which focuses on economic policy at Brookings.Elmendorf plans to continue what Orszag began as CBO head, including contributing to the CBO "Director’s Blog" and evaluating health-care reform’s impact on the national budget. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate Robert C. Byrd(D-WestVa.) selected Elmendorf after getting recommendations from the House and Senate Budget Committees. The House and Senate switch who takes charge in selecting a new CBO director; Pelosi took the lead in selecting Elmendorf."Pelosi and Spratt Statement on New Director of the Congressional Budget Office" Press Release, Dec. 30, 2008(1)"Pelosi and Spratt Statement on New Director of the Congressional Budget Office" Press Release, Dec. 30, 2008In March 2009, the CBO released a revised budget outlook, which increased its forecast of the 2008 deficit from $1.2 trillion to $1.8 trillion. It also valued the 10-year deficit at $9.3 trillion — $2.3 trillion more than what the White House projected in February 2009. Pulizzi, Henry J., "OMB's Orszag: CBO Figures Reflect Worsening Econ, Fiscal Outlook," Dow Jones News Service, March 20, 2009(2)Pulizzi, Henry J., "OMB's Orszag: CBO Figures Reflect Worsening Econ, Fiscal Outlook," Dow Jones News Service, March 20, 2009Elmendorf is also a key voice in the health-care debate as his office in July 2009 released a report estimating the cost of the health-care plan crafted by Sens. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) at a daunting $1 trillion. A Preliminary Analysis of the HELP Committee’s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions," Congressional Budget Office, July 2, 2009(3)A Preliminary Analysis of the HELP Committee’s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions," Congressional Budget Office, July 2, 2009"Yeah, kinda looks like he knows his chit too.And both these people are Obamanites.And even they are telling him and the Democrat controlled Congress their 'Health Care Plan' SUCKS.But isn't that pretty much the Democrat methodology?Tax and Spend.Ya know DemWits, I got an idea.Ya didn't like GWB's spending, saying he spent too much money. Yep, he did.Lot of us didn't like GWB's spending and enlarging the size and scope of Government either.Now I don't know if Albert Einstein was a Dem or Repub. But I do know the dude was pretty smart himself.He used to say that the definition of Insanity was: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.So hey, ALL you idiots in Washington DC, how about ya stop the complete insanity up there, and let's try something a bit different.I got it; how about we REDUCE THE OVERALL SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.We could start by getting rid of the IRS, which started with I believe a 14 page rule book, and now has like 65,000 pages of rules. Instead we put in place either a Flat Tax http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/bg1866.cfm  or the Fair Tax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_tax.  Either one would be better.Then I am SURE I, or someone, can help you come up with ton's more federal government bureaucracies that would be much better handled by the states where they belong.Tattoo Gypsy Even Obama and Nancy Pelosi'd own people say that the Democrats massive national healthcare plan will NOT reduce anybody's costs.Instead, it will INCREASE COSTS for your family, my family, your family, small businesses, and every American taxpayer out there."Throughout this debate, President Obama has spoken of the need to "bend the cost curve" or drive health care costs down. During a congressional hearing, however, Mr. Elmendorf testified that the Democrats’ plans would have the opposite effect, saying that under their proposals, "The curve is being raised" and costs would "significantly expand.""That’s because the Democrats’ plan adds a new layer of taxes, mandates, and bureaucracy on top of the current system. If that’s not bad enough, the Democrats’ plan cuts Medicare and takes away choices for millions of seniors. What does all of this mean? Higher costs for the medicine and treatments you need. ""Dr. Christina Romer, the chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, states the government takeover would cost Americans 4.7 million jobs over the next 10 years. "So who exactly are these people of Obama's and Speaker Nancy Pelosi's that are directly contradicting the Messiah?http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/cea/members/"Christina Romer is Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers. Romer was the Class of 1957-Garff B. Wilson Professor of Economics at the University of California Berkeley. Before teaching at Berkeley, she taught economics and public affairs at Princeton University from 1985-1988.Until her nomination, she was co-director of the Program in Monetary Economics at the National Bureau of Economic Research and served as Vice President of the American Economic Association, where she was also a member of the executive committee."Kinda looks like she knows her chit. And exactly who is Douglas W. Elmendorf?http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Douglas_W._Elmendorf"Elmendorf may be the most important financial analyst in America. He’s not one of the highest paid, but his client list is the U. S. Congress as he evaluates the nation’s budget in trying economic times. He will be a key player in determining how Congress responds to President Barack Obama’s proposed $3.6 trillion budget for fiscal year 2010.Succeeding new Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag, Elmendorf joined the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as the struggling economy commanded much of Congress’ time. Like Orszag, he comes from the liberal think-tank the Brookings Institution, and was the former director of the Hamilton Project, which focuses on economic policy at Brookings.Elmendorf plans to continue what Orszag began as CBO head, including contributing to the CBO "Director’s Blog" and evaluating health-care reform’s impact on the national budget. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate Robert C. Byrd(D-WestVa.) selected Elmendorf after getting recommendations from the House and Senate Budget Committees. The House and Senate switch who takes charge in selecting a new CBO director; Pelosi took the lead in selecting Elmendorf."Pelosi and Spratt Statement on New Director of the Congressional Budget Office" Press Release, Dec. 30, 2008(1)"Pelosi and Spratt Statement on New Director of the Congressional Budget Office" Press Release, Dec. 30, 2008In March 2009, the CBO released a revised budget outlook, which increased its forecast of the 2008 deficit from $1.2 trillion to $1.8 trillion. It also valued the 10-year deficit at $9.3 trillion — $2.3 trillion more than what the White House projected in February 2009. Pulizzi, Henry J., "OMB's Orszag: CBO Figures Reflect Worsening Econ, Fiscal Outlook," Dow Jones News Service, March 20, 2009(2)Pulizzi, Henry J., "OMB's Orszag: CBO Figures Reflect Worsening Econ, Fiscal Outlook," Dow Jones News Service, March 20, 2009Elmendorf is also a key voice in the health-care debate as his office in July 2009 released a report estimating the cost of the health-care plan crafted by Sens. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) at a daunting $1 trillion. A Preliminary Analysis of the HELP Committee’s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions," Congressional Budget Office, July 2, 2009(3)A Preliminary Analysis of the HELP Committee’s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions," Congressional Budget Office, July 2, 2009"Yeah, kinda looks like he knows his chit too.And both these people are Obamanites.And even they are telling him and the Democrat controlled Congress their 'Health Care Plan' SUCKS.But isn't that pretty much the Democrat methodology?Tax and Spend.Ya know DemWits, I got an idea.Ya didn't like GWB's spending, saying he spent too much money. Yep, he did.Lot of us didn't like GWB's spending and enlarging the size and scope of Government either.Now I don't know if Albert Einstein was a Dem or Repub. But I do know the dude was pretty smart himself.He used to say that the definition of Insanity was: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.So hey, ALL you idiots in Washington DC, how about ya stop the complete insanity up there, and let's try something a bit different.I got it; how about we REDUCE THE OVERALL SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.We could start by getting rid of the IRS, which started with I believe a 14 page rule book, and now has like 65,000 pages of rules. Instead we put in place either a Flat Tax http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/bg1866.cfm  or the Fair Tax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_tax.  Either one would be better.Then I am SURE I, or someone, can help you come up with ton's more federal government bureaucracies that would be much better handled by the states where they belong.Tattoo Gypsy Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:37:13 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Obamas-Own-Say-Hes-WRONG/BLOG/448390/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-07-20T16:37:13Z News MyFox Orlando Even Obama and Nancy Pelosi'd own people say that the Democrats massive national healthcare plan will NOT reduce anybody's costs.Instead, it will INCREASE COSTS for your family, my family, your family, small businesses, and every American taxpayer out there."Throughout this debate, President Obama has spoken of the need to "bend the cost curve" or drive health care costs down. During a congressional hearing, however, Mr. Elmendorf testified that the Democrats’ plans would have the opposite effect, saying that under their proposals, "The curve is being raised" and costs would "significantly expand.""That’s because the Democrats’ plan adds a new layer of taxes, mandates, and bureaucracy on top of the current system. If that’s not bad enough, the Democrats’ plan cuts Medicare and takes away choices for millions of seniors. What does all of this mean? Higher costs for the medicine and treatments you need. ""Dr. Christina Romer, the chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, states the government takeover would cost Americans 4.7 million jobs over the next 10 years. "So who exactly are these people of Obama's and Speaker Nancy Pelosi's that are directly contradicting the Messiah?http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/cea/members/"Christina Romer is Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers. Romer was the Class of 1957-Garff B. Wilson Professor of Economics at the University of California Berkeley. Before teaching at Berkeley, she taught economics and public affairs at Princeton University from 1985-1988.Until her nomination, she was co-director of the Program in Monetary Economics at the National Bureau of Economic Research and served as Vice President of the American Economic Association, where she was also a member of the executive committee."Kinda looks like she knows her chit. And exactly who is Douglas W. Elmendorf?http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Douglas_W._Elmendorf"Elmendorf may be the most important financial analyst in America. He’s not one of the highest paid, but his client list is the U. S. Congress as he evaluates the nation’s budget in trying economic times. He will be a key player in determining how Congress responds to President Barack Obama’s proposed $3.6 trillion budget for fiscal year 2010.Succeeding new Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag, Elmendorf joined the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as the struggling economy commanded much of Congress’ time. Like Orszag, he comes from the liberal think-tank the Brookings Institution, and was the former director of the Hamilton Project, which focuses on economic policy at Brookings.Elmendorf plans to continue what Orszag began as CBO head, including contributing to the CBO "Director’s Blog" and evaluating health-care reform’s impact on the national budget. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate Robert C. Byrd(D-WestVa.) selected Elmendorf after getting recommendations from the House and Senate Budget Committees. The House and Senate switch who takes charge in selecting a new CBO director; Pelosi took the lead in selecting Elmendorf."Pelosi and Spratt Statement on New Director of the Congressional Budget Office" Press Release, Dec. 30, 2008(1)"Pelosi and Spratt Statement on New Director of the Congressional Budget Office" Press Release, Dec. 30, 2008In March 2009, the CBO released a revised budget outlook, which increased its forecast of the 2008 deficit from $1.2 trillion to $1.8 trillion. It also valued the 10-year deficit at $9.3 trillion — $2.3 trillion more than what the White House projected in February 2009. Pulizzi, Henry J., "OMB's Orszag: CBO Figures Reflect Worsening Econ, Fiscal Outlook," Dow Jones News Service, March 20, 2009(2)Pulizzi, Henry J., "OMB's Orszag: CBO Figures Reflect Worsening Econ, Fiscal Outlook," Dow Jones News Service, March 20, 2009Elmendorf is also a key voice in the health-care debate as his office in July 2009 released a report estimating the cost of the health-care plan crafted by Sens. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) at a daunting $1 trillion. A Preliminary Analysis of the HELP Committee’s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions," Congressional Budget Office, July 2, 2009(3)A Preliminary Analysis of the HELP Committee’s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions," Congressional Budget Office, July 2, 2009"Yeah, kinda looks like he knows his chit too.And both these people are Obamanites.And even they are telling him and the Democrat controlled Congress their 'Health Care Plan' SUCKS.But isn't that pretty much the Democrat methodology?Tax and Spend.Ya know DemWits, I got an idea.Ya didn't like GWB's spending, saying he spent too much money. Yep, he did.Lot of us didn't like GWB's spending and enlarging the size and scope of Government either.Now I don't know if Albert Einstein was a Dem or Repub. But I do know the dude was pretty smart himself.He used to say that the definition of Insanity was: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.So hey, ALL you idiots in Washington DC, how about ya stop the complete insanity up there, and let's try something a bit different.I got it; how about we REDUCE THE OVERALL SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.We could start by getting rid of the IRS, which started with I believe a 14 page rule book, and now has like 65,000 pages of rules. Instead we put in place either a Flat Tax http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/bg1866.cfm  or the Fair Tax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_tax.  Either one would be better.Then I am SURE I, or someone, can help you come up with ton's more federal government bureaucracies that would be much better handled by the states where they belong.Tattoo Gypsy news nonadult false Obama's Own Say He's WRONG text blog news 122 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 4 0 448390 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Obamas-Polls-Dropping-Again/BLOG/441663/72667.html Obama's polls are dropping yet again. http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/3272692 In a nutshell: People who think the country is on the right track with Obama DROPPED to 40 percent, down 12 points since early June and the lowest since Obama took office in January.Total of Americans who "strongly" approve of Obama's job performance dropped 11 points in a month, to 29 percent, his lowest ever. Conversely, 22 percent said they strongly disapprove, up 6 points and the highest of his six months in office. Only 26 percent said they trusted Obama the most to expand healthcare to the uninsured.Americans who say this country is on the wrong track jumped to 54 percent, a 12-point rise and the highest since Obama took office.Looks like the 'honeymoon' might be over and more people starting to wake up a bit. Tattoo Gypsy Obama's polls are dropping yet again. http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/3272692 In a nutshell: People who think the country is on the right track with Obama DROPPED to 40 percent, down 12 points since early June and the lowest since Obama took office in January.Total of Americans who "strongly" approve of Obama's job performance dropped 11 points in a month, to 29 percent, his lowest ever. Conversely, 22 percent said they strongly disapprove, up 6 points and the highest of his six months in office. Only 26 percent said they trusted Obama the most to expand healthcare to the uninsured.Americans who say this country is on the wrong track jumped to 54 percent, a 12-point rise and the highest since Obama took office.Looks like the 'honeymoon' might be over and more people starting to wake up a bit. Tattoo Gypsy Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:57:31 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Obamas-Polls-Dropping-Again/BLOG/441663/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-07-16T20:57:31Z News MyFox Orlando Obama's polls are dropping yet again. http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/3272692 In a nutshell: People who think the country is on the right track with Obama DROPPED to 40 percent, down 12 points since early June and the lowest since Obama took office in January.Total of Americans who "strongly" approve of Obama's job performance dropped 11 points in a month, to 29 percent, his lowest ever. Conversely, 22 percent said they strongly disapprove, up 6 points and the highest of his six months in office. Only 26 percent said they trusted Obama the most to expand healthcare to the uninsured.Americans who say this country is on the wrong track jumped to 54 percent, a 12-point rise and the highest since Obama took office.Looks like the 'honeymoon' might be over and more people starting to wake up a bit. Tattoo Gypsy news nonadult false Obama's Polls Dropping Again text blog news 331 3 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 12 0 441663 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Thought-Police-Taking-You-To-Jail/BLOG/427506/72667.html Dem's Thought Police Gonna Take You To Prisonhttp://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1966/text  Congresswoman Linda T. Sánchez (Dem - CA) has introduced a new bill that will, if passed into law, could put a great majority of us, in jail for up to 2 years. It has also been endorsed by several other Democrats. And at least one Republican that I know of so far, Mark Kirk.Co sponsors of this bill include Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D, OH), Rep. John Yarmuth (D, KY) Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D, CA) Rep. Lois Capps (D, CA) Rep. Timothy Bishop (D, NY) Rep. Bruce Braley (D, IA) Rep. Raul Grijalva (D, AZ) Rep. Phil Hare (D, IL) Rep. Brian Higgins (D, NY) Rep. William Clay (D, MO) Rep. John Sarbanes (D, MD) Rep. Joe Courtney (D, CT) Rep. Mark Kirk (R, IL) House Bill 1966 would amend the federal criminal code to impose FEDERAL criminal penalties on anyone who transmits in interstate or foreign commerce a communication intended to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to another person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior.HR 1966, SEC 3, Sec. 881aWhoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.1. The term ‘communication’ means the electronic transmission, between or among points specified by the user, of information of the user’s choosing, without change in the form or content of the information as sent and received; and2. The term ‘electronic means’ means any equipment dependent on electrical power to access an information service, including email, instant messaging, blogs, websites, telephones, and text messages.’And yeah, since it uses electric power, it would also include TV and Radio. Not to mention, CB radio, Short Wave Radio, and even those cheap $5 radio shack type walkie-talkies.This covers just about ANY kind of political activism on the Internet, including blogs and yes even this forum as well.If you argue with your girlfriend, or with some of you guys, your boyfriend, on a cell phone, text message, email, whatever, and it distresses that other person, YOU can go to a federal prison for up to 2 years.So now if this passes and becomes law, how long will it take before we see the federal government employ the THOUGHT POLICE to determine if you meant distress to Obama when you questioned his policies even once, much less over and over again.Free Speech will be over if this becomes law. Stick a knife in it, they will have finished shredding the Constitution.This bill would criminalize any kinda of harsh speech made by anyone.As this clearly states, ANYBODY ‘intending’ to ‘coerce’ or ’cause substantial emotional distress’ to a person using a blog, or pretty much anything else, to 'support severe, repeated and hostile behavior’ could get two years in a federal prision.Look out you koolaid drinking liberals, if your speech offends me, or Bush, or Cheney, or anyone else, you could go to a federal prison for 2 years, and or a fine. Just for speaking your mind.Of course, ya'll could be 'cell bunkies', I'm sure ya'll would enjoy that.Oops, My Bad, I better watch my words, I might go to prison in the cell next to ya'll for those kinda comments.Think about it.When some stupid politician does something ridiculous or corrupt, doesn't matter of it's Obama, Bush, Biden, Clinton, or Joe Mama, and if one of us decides to talk chit about them and what they have done, and especially as in my case where I fully intend to chastise them and cause them substantial emotional distress, and I’m hostile when I do it – occasionally very hostile, I can go to jail.Kinda think I need to reserve my jail cell now. Cause if my Mother couldn't get me to shut up, what make these idiot Democrats (and one Republican) who are sponsoring this stupidity think THEY can shut me up.So I also have to wonder, exactly what part of the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America these idiots who wrote and have sponsored this House Bill 1966, do not understand?1st AmendmentCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.So before anyone goes calling someone a moron, idiot, retarded, koolaid drinker, wingnut, and any of the other bullcrap all you numnutz call each other, consider the possible consequences of this new bill, or at least put your lawyers number on speed dial.Luckily, my lawyer has always been on speed dial.Better speak up now and tell your Congressmen to stop this assault on the 1st Amendment, while ya still can.Speak now, or forever hold your piece as they say.Tattoo Gypsy[image] Dem's Thought Police Gonna Take You To Prisonhttp://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1966/text  Congresswoman Linda T. Sánchez (Dem - CA) has introduced a new bill that will, if passed into law, could put a great majority of us, in jail for up to 2 years. It has also been endorsed by several other Democrats. And at least one Republican that I know of so far, Mark Kirk.Co sponsors of this bill include Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D, OH), Rep. John Yarmuth (D, KY) Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D, CA) Rep. Lois Capps (D, CA) Rep. Timothy Bishop (D, NY) Rep. Bruce Braley (D, IA) Rep. Raul Grijalva (D, AZ) Rep. Phil Hare (D, IL) Rep. Brian Higgins (D, NY) Rep. William Clay (D, MO) Rep. John Sarbanes (D, MD) Rep. Joe Courtney (D, CT) Rep. Mark Kirk (R, IL) House Bill 1966 would amend the federal criminal code to impose FEDERAL criminal penalties on anyone who transmits in interstate or foreign commerce a communication intended to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to another person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior.HR 1966, SEC 3, Sec. 881aWhoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.1. The term ‘communication’ means the electronic transmission, between or among points specified by the user, of information of the user’s choosing, without change in the form or content of the information as sent and received; and2. The term ‘electronic means’ means any equipment dependent on electrical power to access an information service, including email, instant messaging, blogs, websites, telephones, and text messages.’And yeah, since it uses electric power, it would also include TV and Radio. Not to mention, CB radio, Short Wave Radio, and even those cheap $5 radio shack type walkie-talkies.This covers just about ANY kind of political activism on the Internet, including blogs and yes even this forum as well.If you argue with your girlfriend, or with some of you guys, your boyfriend, on a cell phone, text message, email, whatever, and it distresses that other person, YOU can go to a federal prison for up to 2 years.So now if this passes and becomes law, how long will it take before we see the federal government employ the THOUGHT POLICE to determine if you meant distress to Obama when you questioned his policies even once, much less over and over again.Free Speech will be over if this becomes law. Stick a knife in it, they will have finished shredding the Constitution.This bill would criminalize any kinda of harsh speech made by anyone.As this clearly states, ANYBODY ‘intending’ to ‘coerce’ or ’cause substantial emotional distress’ to a person using a blog, or pretty much anything else, to 'support severe, repeated and hostile behavior’ could get two years in a federal prision.Look out you koolaid drinking liberals, if your speech offends me, or Bush, or Cheney, or anyone else, you could go to a federal prison for 2 years, and or a fine. Just for speaking your mind.Of course, ya'll could be 'cell bunkies', I'm sure ya'll would enjoy that.Oops, My Bad, I better watch my words, I might go to prison in the cell next to ya'll for those kinda comments.Think about it.When some stupid politician does something ridiculous or corrupt, doesn't matter of it's Obama, Bush, Biden, Clinton, or Joe Mama, and if one of us decides to talk chit about them and what they have done, and especially as in my case where I fully intend to chastise them and cause them substantial emotional distress, and I’m hostile when I do it – occasionally very hostile, I can go to jail.Kinda think I need to reserve my jail cell now. Cause if my Mother couldn't get me to shut up, what make these idiot Democrats (and one Republican) who are sponsoring this stupidity think THEY can shut me up.So I also have to wonder, exactly what part of the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America these idiots who wrote and have sponsored this House Bill 1966, do not understand?1st AmendmentCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.So before anyone goes calling someone a moron, idiot, retarded, koolaid drinker, wingnut, and any of the other bullcrap all you numnutz call each other, consider the possible consequences of this new bill, or at least put your lawyers number on speed dial.Luckily, my lawyer has always been on speed dial.Better speak up now and tell your Congressmen to stop this assault on the 1st Amendment, while ya still can.Speak now, or forever hold your piece as they say.Tattoo Gypsy[image] Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:08:39 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Thought-Police-Taking-You-To-Jail/BLOG/427506/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-07-09T02:08:39Z News MyFox Orlando Dem's Thought Police Gonna Take You To Prisonhttp://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1966/text  Congresswoman Linda T. Sánchez (Dem - CA) has introduced a new bill that will, if passed into law, could put a great majority of us, in jail for up to 2 years. It has also been endorsed by several other Democrats. And at least one Republican that I know of so far, Mark Kirk.Co sponsors of this bill include Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D, OH), Rep. John Yarmuth (D, KY) Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D, CA) Rep. Lois Capps (D, CA) Rep. Timothy Bishop (D, NY) Rep. Bruce Braley (D, IA) Rep. Raul Grijalva (D, AZ) Rep. Phil Hare (D, IL) Rep. Brian Higgins (D, NY) Rep. William Clay (D, MO) Rep. John Sarbanes (D, MD) Rep. Joe Courtney (D, CT) Rep. Mark Kirk (R, IL) House Bill 1966 would amend the federal criminal code to impose FEDERAL criminal penalties on anyone who transmits in interstate or foreign commerce a communication intended to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to another person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior.HR 1966, SEC 3, Sec. 881aWhoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.1. The term ‘communication’ means the electronic transmission, between or among points specified by the user, of information of the user’s choosing, without change in the form or content of the information as sent and received; and2. The term ‘electronic means’ means any equipment dependent on electrical power to access an information service, including email, instant messaging, blogs, websites, telephones, and text messages.’And yeah, since it uses electric power, it would also include TV and Radio. Not to mention, CB radio, Short Wave Radio, and even those cheap $5 radio shack type walkie-talkies.This covers just about ANY kind of political activism on the Internet, including blogs and yes even this forum as well.If you argue with your girlfriend, or with some of you guys, your boyfriend, on a cell phone, text message, email, whatever, and it distresses that other person, YOU can go to a federal prison for up to 2 years.So now if this passes and becomes law, how long will it take before we see the federal government employ the THOUGHT POLICE to determine if you meant distress to Obama when you questioned his policies even once, much less over and over again.Free Speech will be over if this becomes law. Stick a knife in it, they will have finished shredding the Constitution.This bill would criminalize any kinda of harsh speech made by anyone.As this clearly states, ANYBODY ‘intending’ to ‘coerce’ or ’cause substantial emotional distress’ to a person using a blog, or pretty much anything else, to 'support severe, repeated and hostile behavior’ could get two years in a federal prision.Look out you koolaid drinking liberals, if your speech offends me, or Bush, or Cheney, or anyone else, you could go to a federal prison for 2 years, and or a fine. Just for speaking your mind.Of course, ya'll could be 'cell bunkies', I'm sure ya'll would enjoy that.Oops, My Bad, I better watch my words, I might go to prison in the cell next to ya'll for those kinda comments.Think about it.When some stupid politician does something ridiculous or corrupt, doesn't matter of it's Obama, Bush, Biden, Clinton, or Joe Mama, and if one of us decides to talk chit about them and what they have done, and especially as in my case where I fully intend to chastise them and cause them substantial emotional distress, and I’m hostile when I do it – occasionally very hostile, I can go to jail.Kinda think I need to reserve my jail cell now. Cause if my Mother couldn't get me to shut up, what make these idiot Democrats (and one Republican) who are sponsoring this stupidity think THEY can shut me up.So I also have to wonder, exactly what part of the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America these idiots who wrote and have sponsored this House Bill 1966, do not understand?1st AmendmentCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.So before anyone goes calling someone a moron, idiot, retarded, koolaid drinker, wingnut, and any of the other bullcrap all you numnutz call each other, consider the possible consequences of this new bill, or at least put your lawyers number on speed dial.Luckily, my lawyer has always been on speed dial.Better speak up now and tell your Congressmen to stop this assault on the 1st Amendment, while ya still can.Speak now, or forever hold your piece as they say.Tattoo Gypsy[image] constitution, democrat, free, liberal, news, oibama, speech nonadult false Thought Police Taking You To Jail text blog constitution,democrat,free,liberal,news,oibama,speech 153 4 4.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 10 1 427506 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Domestic-Terrorist-Enemy-Of-The-State/BLOG/420606/72667.html The following 'amendment' has been added to House Bill 2647 by Congressman Hastings (Dem) from Florida here.If this does pass, it actually makes me personally into a 'domestic terrorist' and and 'Enemy Of The State'.As well as probably most of you also. http://www.alceehastings.house.gov/images/stories/hastfl_045_xml_military_amendment_6.09.pdfAMENDMENT TO H.R. 2647, AS REPORTED OFFERED BY MR. HASTINGS OF FLORIDAAt the end of subtitle C of title V (page 134, after line 24), add the following new section:SEC. 524.PROHIBITION ON RECRUITMENT, ENLISTMENT, OR RETENTION OF PERSONS ASSOCIATED OR AFFILIATED WITH GROUPS ASSOCIATED WITH HATE-RELATED VIOLENCE AGAINST GROUPS OR PERSONS OR THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.DEFINITION OF HATE GROUP.—In this subsection, the terms ‘group associated with hate-related violence’ or ‘hate group’ mean the following:‘‘Groups or organizations that espouse or engage in acts of violence against other groups or minorities based on ideals of hate, ethnic supremacies, white supremacies, racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, or other bigotry ideologies.Groups or organizations that espouse an intention or expectation of armed revolutionary activity against the United States Government, or the violent overthrow of the United States Government.(So even if you are an Obama supporter, and THINK or EXPECT someone will eventually try to violently overthrow the government when it has become oppressivly tyranical, you can be considered a terrorist) Other groups or organizations that are determined by the Attorney General to be of a violent, extremist nature.(Guess that means if the Attorney General decides he doesn't like what you think, say or feel, he can simply make a determination you are a domestic terrorist.Isn't that about what Janet Napolitano said in the report that was 'not supposed to be released'?If you believed in the Founding Fathers, or the Constitution, or a 3rd Party besides the Repubs and Dems, or you believed in life over abortion, you could possibly be a 'domestic terrorist'. And people say she didn't really mean it, awwww.Guess Idiot Congressman Hastings doesn't really mean it either. He's simply putting this admendment in there as a 'joke', right?) What else does Hastings put in this amendment:EVIDENCE OF ASSOCIATION OR AFFILIATION WITH HATE GROUP.—The following shall constitute evidence that a person is associated or affiliated with a group associated with hate-related violence:‘‘Individuals possessing tattoos or other body markings indicating association or affiliation with a hate group."(Better not let them catch ya with that Rebel Flag or Gadsden Snake Tattoo. So much for the right to free speech) Individuals known to have attended meetings, rallies, conferences, or other activities sponsored by a hate group.(So the Attorney General makes the Taxed Enough Already organization into a hate group, and anyone who went to a T.E.A. Party, is now a domestic terrorist. That would be ME. Just in case the fed's are already reading my personal email cause they didn't want to wait till it hit the blog.) Individuals known to be involved in online activities with a hate group, including being engaged in online discussion groups or blog or other postings that support, encourage, or affirm the group’s extremist or violent views and goals.(So, the Attorney General gets to determine 'who' is a 'hate group' then can turn around and make you into a domestic terrorist because you exercise your freedom of speech and bytch about Obama and the destruction of the Constitution. Which means, if this idiocy actually passes, if everything else I have written does not classify me as a domestic terrorist, then this posting sure as hell will by the time I'd done, yippee kiya mudderfudder.) Individuals who are known to have in their possession photographs, written testimonials (including diaries or journals), propaganda, or other materials indicating involvement or affiliation with a hate group.Such materials can include photographs, written materials relating to or referring to extreme hatred that are clearly not of an academic nature, possession of objects that venerate or glorify hate inspired violence, and related materials, as determined by the Attorney General.(As DETERMINED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. So I would imagine that carrying a copy of the US Constitution, since all of our Founding Fathers were considered terrorists by King George, and apparently President Obama, my Constitution is enough to label me as a domestic terrorist. Since when did we live in Nazi Germany that one man gets to determine what is acceptable reading material.Seems I recall a ton of pictures of all the book burning in Nazi Germany in the 30's)   [image]  And yet, some people do not seem to think (obviously) that members of our own United States Government are attempting to pass into law, laws that would self propagate crime and 'criminals' labeling them as 'domestic terrorists' and actually creating 'enemies of the state' simply by their thoughts, feelings, literature, or who they happen to talk to.Just one of Dictator Hitler's "Emergency Decree's" in March 1933, (only 18 months after he first ran for 'president') stated:"Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscation's as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed."Guess I have just one comment;[image]WHEN AMERICAN PATRIOTS ARE LABELED AS ENEMIES OF THE STATE, THEN BURY MY CORPSE BESIDE THAT OF LADY LIBERTY'S.  Semper FiTattoo Gypsy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/(The Political Blog) The following 'amendment' has been added to House Bill 2647 by Congressman Hastings (Dem) from Florida here.If this does pass, it actually makes me personally into a 'domestic terrorist' and and 'Enemy Of The State'.As well as probably most of you also. http://www.alceehastings.house.gov/images/stories/hastfl_045_xml_military_amendment_6.09.pdfAMENDMENT TO H.R. 2647, AS REPORTED OFFERED BY MR. HASTINGS OF FLORIDAAt the end of subtitle C of title V (page 134, after line 24), add the following new section:SEC. 524.PROHIBITION ON RECRUITMENT, ENLISTMENT, OR RETENTION OF PERSONS ASSOCIATED OR AFFILIATED WITH GROUPS ASSOCIATED WITH HATE-RELATED VIOLENCE AGAINST GROUPS OR PERSONS OR THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.DEFINITION OF HATE GROUP.—In this subsection, the terms ‘group associated with hate-related violence’ or ‘hate group’ mean the following:‘‘Groups or organizations that espouse or engage in acts of violence against other groups or minorities based on ideals of hate, ethnic supremacies, white supremacies, racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, or other bigotry ideologies.Groups or organizations that espouse an intention or expectation of armed revolutionary activity against the United States Government, or the violent overthrow of the United States Government.(So even if you are an Obama supporter, and THINK or EXPECT someone will eventually try to violently overthrow the government when it has become oppressivly tyranical, you can be considered a terrorist) Other groups or organizations that are determined by the Attorney General to be of a violent, extremist nature.(Guess that means if the Attorney General decides he doesn't like what you think, say or feel, he can simply make a determination you are a domestic terrorist.Isn't that about what Janet Napolitano said in the report that was 'not supposed to be released'?If you believed in the Founding Fathers, or the Constitution, or a 3rd Party besides the Repubs and Dems, or you believed in life over abortion, you could possibly be a 'domestic terrorist'. And people say she didn't really mean it, awwww.Guess Idiot Congressman Hastings doesn't really mean it either. He's simply putting this admendment in there as a 'joke', right?) What else does Hastings put in this amendment:EVIDENCE OF ASSOCIATION OR AFFILIATION WITH HATE GROUP.—The following shall constitute evidence that a person is associated or affiliated with a group associated with hate-related violence:‘‘Individuals possessing tattoos or other body markings indicating association or affiliation with a hate group."(Better not let them catch ya with that Rebel Flag or Gadsden Snake Tattoo. So much for the right to free speech) Individuals known to have attended meetings, rallies, conferences, or other activities sponsored by a hate group.(So the Attorney General makes the Taxed Enough Already organization into a hate group, and anyone who went to a T.E.A. Party, is now a domestic terrorist. That would be ME. Just in case the fed's are already reading my personal email cause they didn't want to wait till it hit the blog.) Individuals known to be involved in online activities with a hate group, including being engaged in online discussion groups or blog or other postings that support, encourage, or affirm the group’s extremist or violent views and goals.(So, the Attorney General gets to determine 'who' is a 'hate group' then can turn around and make you into a domestic terrorist because you exercise your freedom of speech and bytch about Obama and the destruction of the Constitution. Which means, if this idiocy actually passes, if everything else I have written does not classify me as a domestic terrorist, then this posting sure as hell will by the time I'd done, yippee kiya mudderfudder.) Individuals who are known to have in their possession photographs, written testimonials (including diaries or journals), propaganda, or other materials indicating involvement or affiliation with a hate group.Such materials can include photographs, written materials relating to or referring to extreme hatred that are clearly not of an academic nature, possession of objects that venerate or glorify hate inspired violence, and related materials, as determined by the Attorney General.(As DETERMINED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. So I would imagine that carrying a copy of the US Constitution, since all of our Founding Fathers were considered terrorists by King George, and apparently President Obama, my Constitution is enough to label me as a domestic terrorist. Since when did we live in Nazi Germany that one man gets to determine what is acceptable reading material.Seems I recall a ton of pictures of all the book burning in Nazi Germany in the 30's)   [image]  And yet, some people do not seem to think (obviously) that members of our own United States Government are attempting to pass into law, laws that would self propagate crime and 'criminals' labeling them as 'domestic terrorists' and actually creating 'enemies of the state' simply by their thoughts, feelings, literature, or who they happen to talk to.Just one of Dictator Hitler's "Emergency Decree's" in March 1933, (only 18 months after he first ran for 'president') stated:"Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscation's as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed."Guess I have just one comment;[image]WHEN AMERICAN PATRIOTS ARE LABELED AS ENEMIES OF THE STATE, THEN BURY MY CORPSE BESIDE THAT OF LADY LIBERTY'S.  Semper FiTattoo Gypsy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/(The Political Blog) Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:35:52 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Domestic-Terrorist-Enemy-Of-The-State/BLOG/420606/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-07-05T19:35:52Z News MyFox Orlando The following 'amendment' has been added to House Bill 2647 by Congressman Hastings (Dem) from Florida here.If this does pass, it actually makes me personally into a 'domestic terrorist' and and 'Enemy Of The State'.As well as probably most of you also. http://www.alceehastings.house.gov/images/stories/hastfl_045_xml_military_amendment_6.09.pdfAMENDMENT TO H.R. 2647, AS REPORTED OFFERED BY MR. HASTINGS OF FLORIDAAt the end of subtitle C of title V (page 134, after line 24), add the following new section:SEC. 524.PROHIBITION ON RECRUITMENT, ENLISTMENT, OR RETENTION OF PERSONS ASSOCIATED OR AFFILIATED WITH GROUPS ASSOCIATED WITH HATE-RELATED VIOLENCE AGAINST GROUPS OR PERSONS OR THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.DEFINITION OF HATE GROUP.—In this subsection, the terms ‘group associated with hate-related violence’ or ‘hate group’ mean the following:‘‘Groups or organizations that espouse or engage in acts of violence against other groups or minorities based on ideals of hate, ethnic supremacies, white supremacies, racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, or other bigotry ideologies.Groups or organizations that espouse an intention or expectation of armed revolutionary activity against the United States Government, or the violent overthrow of the United States Government.(So even if you are an Obama supporter, and THINK or EXPECT someone will eventually try to violently overthrow the government when it has become oppressivly tyranical, you can be considered a terrorist) Other groups or organizations that are determined by the Attorney General to be of a violent, extremist nature.(Guess that means if the Attorney General decides he doesn't like what you think, say or feel, he can simply make a determination you are a domestic terrorist.Isn't that about what Janet Napolitano said in the report that was 'not supposed to be released'?If you believed in the Founding Fathers, or the Constitution, or a 3rd Party besides the Repubs and Dems, or you believed in life over abortion, you could possibly be a 'domestic terrorist'. And people say she didn't really mean it, awwww.Guess Idiot Congressman Hastings doesn't really mean it either. He's simply putting this admendment in there as a 'joke', right?) What else does Hastings put in this amendment:EVIDENCE OF ASSOCIATION OR AFFILIATION WITH HATE GROUP.—The following shall constitute evidence that a person is associated or affiliated with a group associated with hate-related violence:‘‘Individuals possessing tattoos or other body markings indicating association or affiliation with a hate group."(Better not let them catch ya with that Rebel Flag or Gadsden Snake Tattoo. So much for the right to free speech) Individuals known to have attended meetings, rallies, conferences, or other activities sponsored by a hate group.(So the Attorney General makes the Taxed Enough Already organization into a hate group, and anyone who went to a T.E.A. Party, is now a domestic terrorist. That would be ME. Just in case the fed's are already reading my personal email cause they didn't want to wait till it hit the blog.) Individuals known to be involved in online activities with a hate group, including being engaged in online discussion groups or blog or other postings that support, encourage, or affirm the group’s extremist or violent views and goals.(So, the Attorney General gets to determine 'who' is a 'hate group' then can turn around and make you into a domestic terrorist because you exercise your freedom of speech and bytch about Obama and the destruction of the Constitution. Which means, if this idiocy actually passes, if everything else I have written does not classify me as a domestic terrorist, then this posting sure as hell will by the time I'd done, yippee kiya mudderfudder.) Individuals who are known to have in their possession photographs, written testimonials (including diaries or journals), propaganda, or other materials indicating involvement or affiliation with a hate group.Such materials can include photographs, written materials relating to or referring to extreme hatred that are clearly not of an academic nature, possession of objects that venerate or glorify hate inspired violence, and related materials, as determined by the Attorney General.(As DETERMINED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. So I would imagine that carrying a copy of the US Constitution, since all of our Founding Fathers were considered terrorists by King George, and apparently President Obama, my Constitution is enough to label me as a domestic terrorist. Since when did we live in Nazi Germany that one man gets to determine what is acceptable reading material.Seems I recall a ton of pictures of all the book burning in Nazi Germany in the 30's)   [image]  And yet, some people do not seem to think (obviously) that members of our own United States Government are attempting to pass into law, laws that would self propagate crime and 'criminals' labeling them as 'domestic terrorists' and actually creating 'enemies of the state' simply by their thoughts, feelings, literature, or who they happen to talk to.Just one of Dictator Hitler's "Emergency Decree's" in March 1933, (only 18 months after he first ran for 'president') stated:"Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscation's as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed."Guess I have just one comment;[image]WHEN AMERICAN PATRIOTS ARE LABELED AS ENEMIES OF THE STATE, THEN BURY MY CORPSE BESIDE THAT OF LADY LIBERTY'S.  Semper FiTattoo Gypsy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/(The Political Blog) amendment, constitution, enemy, florida, military, news, obama, president, terrorist nonadult false Domestic Terrorist - Enemy Of The State text blog amendment,constitution,enemy,florida,military,news,obama,president,terrorist 165 2 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 6 1 420606 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Once-Upon-A-Time-A-Nightmare-Story/BLOG/420022/72667.html Here's an interesting 'bedtime story' I received today.-----------------------------------Once upon a time, I was invited to the White House for a private dinner with the President. I am a respected businessman, with a factory that produces memory chips for computers and portable electronics.There was some talk that my industry was being scrutinized by the administration, but I paid it no mind. I live in a free country.There's nothing that the government can do to me if I've broken no laws. My wealth was earned honestly, and an invitation to dinner with an American President is an honor.I checked my coat, was greeted by the Chief of Staff, and joined the President in a yellow dining room. We sat across from each other at a table draped in white linen. The Great Seal was embossed on the china. Uniformed staff served our dinner.The meal was served, and I was startled when my waiter suddenly reached out, plucked a dinner roll off my plate, and began nibbling it as he walked back to the kitchen."Sorry about that," said the President. "Andrew is very hungry.""I don't appreciate..." I began, but as I looked into the calm brown eyes across from me, I felt immediately guilty and petty.It was just a dinner roll. "Of course," I concluded, and reached for my glass. Before I could, however, another waiter reached forward, took the glass away and swallowed the wine in a single gulp."And his brother Eric is very thirsty." said the President.I didn't say anything. The President is testing my compassion, I thought. I will play along. I don't want to seem unkind. My plate was whisked away before I had tasted a bite."Eric's children are also quite hungry."With a lurch, I crashed to the floor. My chair had been pulled out from under me. I stood, brushing myself off angrily, and watched as it was carried from the room."And their grandmother can't stand for long."I excused myself, smiling outwardly, but inside feeling like a fool.Obviously I had been invited to the White House to be sport for some game. I reached for my coat, to find that it had been taken. I turned back to the President."Their grandfather doesn't like the cold."I wanted to shout- that was my coat! But again, I looked at the placid smiling face of my host and decided I was being a poor sport. I spread my hands helplessly and chuckled.Then I felt my hip pocket and realized my wallet was gone. I excused myself and walked to a phone on an elegant side table.I learned shortly that my credit cards had been maxed out, my bank accounts emptied, my retirement and equity portfolios had vanished, and my wife had been thrown out of our home.Apparently, the waiters and their families were moving in.The President hadn't moved or spoken as I learned all this, but finally I lowered the phone into its cradle and turned to face him."Andrew's whole family has made bad financial decisions. They haven't planned for retirement, and they need a house. They recently defaulted on a sub-prime mortgage. I told them they could have your home. They need it more than you do."My hands were shaking. I felt faint. I stumbled back to the table and knelt on the floor. The President cheerfully cut his meat, ate his steak and drank his wine. I lowered my eyes and stared at the small gray circles on the tablecloth that were water drops."By the way," He added, "I have just signed an Executive Order nationalizing your factories. I'm firing you as head of your business. I'll be operating the firm now for the benefit of all mankind. There's a whole bunch of Eric's and Andrews out there and they can't come to you for jobs groveling like beggars."I looked up. The President dropped his spoon into the empty ramekin which had been his Creme Brulee. He drained the last drops of his wine.As the table was cleared, he lit a cigarette and leaned back in his chair. He stared at me. I clung to the edge of the table as if were a ledge and I were a man hanging over an abyss.I thought of the years behind me, of the life I had lived. The life I had earned with a lifetime of work, risk and struggle. Why was I punished?How had I allowed it to be taken? What game had I played and lost?I looked across the table and noticed with some surprise that there was no game board between us.What had I done wrong?As if answering the unspoken thought, the President suddenly cocked his head, locked his empty eyes to mine, and bared a million teeth, chuckling wryly as he folded his hands."You should have stopped me at the dinner roll," he said.-------------------------------------------------------No, it ain't no 'game'. But it IS being played right now in front of, and more importantly WITH us. And it ain't no bedtime story. More like a nightmare. Because we are ALL in this together, like it or not, believe it or not.Just because some people choose to disbelieve this is really happening, doesn't make it go away, doesn't make it any less real.And by the time these 'disbelieving' people finally wake up and realize what has happened, it may be just too late.They should have joined with the rest of us and stopped him at the dinner roll.But instead, I see it now, they are gonna look at the rest of us and ask; WHY didn't you tell us this was happening.News flash, we did. Many, many times.And you instead chose to disbelieve us, chose to ridicule us, chose to insult us, chose to call us racists and every vile name in the book, because we did TRY to warn you.See ya at the fireworks. Happy 4th of July. Let's hope it is not the last. Tattoo Gypsy[image]   Here's an interesting 'bedtime story' I received today.-----------------------------------Once upon a time, I was invited to the White House for a private dinner with the President. I am a respected businessman, with a factory that produces memory chips for computers and portable electronics.There was some talk that my industry was being scrutinized by the administration, but I paid it no mind. I live in a free country.There's nothing that the government can do to me if I've broken no laws. My wealth was earned honestly, and an invitation to dinner with an American President is an honor.I checked my coat, was greeted by the Chief of Staff, and joined the President in a yellow dining room. We sat across from each other at a table draped in white linen. The Great Seal was embossed on the china. Uniformed staff served our dinner.The meal was served, and I was startled when my waiter suddenly reached out, plucked a dinner roll off my plate, and began nibbling it as he walked back to the kitchen."Sorry about that," said the President. "Andrew is very hungry.""I don't appreciate..." I began, but as I looked into the calm brown eyes across from me, I felt immediately guilty and petty.It was just a dinner roll. "Of course," I concluded, and reached for my glass. Before I could, however, another waiter reached forward, took the glass away and swallowed the wine in a single gulp."And his brother Eric is very thirsty." said the President.I didn't say anything. The President is testing my compassion, I thought. I will play along. I don't want to seem unkind. My plate was whisked away before I had tasted a bite."Eric's children are also quite hungry."With a lurch, I crashed to the floor. My chair had been pulled out from under me. I stood, brushing myself off angrily, and watched as it was carried from the room."And their grandmother can't stand for long."I excused myself, smiling outwardly, but inside feeling like a fool.Obviously I had been invited to the White House to be sport for some game. I reached for my coat, to find that it had been taken. I turned back to the President."Their grandfather doesn't like the cold."I wanted to shout- that was my coat! But again, I looked at the placid smiling face of my host and decided I was being a poor sport. I spread my hands helplessly and chuckled.Then I felt my hip pocket and realized my wallet was gone. I excused myself and walked to a phone on an elegant side table.I learned shortly that my credit cards had been maxed out, my bank accounts emptied, my retirement and equity portfolios had vanished, and my wife had been thrown out of our home.Apparently, the waiters and their families were moving in.The President hadn't moved or spoken as I learned all this, but finally I lowered the phone into its cradle and turned to face him."Andrew's whole family has made bad financial decisions. They haven't planned for retirement, and they need a house. They recently defaulted on a sub-prime mortgage. I told them they could have your home. They need it more than you do."My hands were shaking. I felt faint. I stumbled back to the table and knelt on the floor. The President cheerfully cut his meat, ate his steak and drank his wine. I lowered my eyes and stared at the small gray circles on the tablecloth that were water drops."By the way," He added, "I have just signed an Executive Order nationalizing your factories. I'm firing you as head of your business. I'll be operating the firm now for the benefit of all mankind. There's a whole bunch of Eric's and Andrews out there and they can't come to you for jobs groveling like beggars."I looked up. The President dropped his spoon into the empty ramekin which had been his Creme Brulee. He drained the last drops of his wine.As the table was cleared, he lit a cigarette and leaned back in his chair. He stared at me. I clung to the edge of the table as if were a ledge and I were a man hanging over an abyss.I thought of the years behind me, of the life I had lived. The life I had earned with a lifetime of work, risk and struggle. Why was I punished?How had I allowed it to be taken? What game had I played and lost?I looked across the table and noticed with some surprise that there was no game board between us.What had I done wrong?As if answering the unspoken thought, the President suddenly cocked his head, locked his empty eyes to mine, and bared a million teeth, chuckling wryly as he folded his hands."You should have stopped me at the dinner roll," he said.-------------------------------------------------------No, it ain't no 'game'. But it IS being played right now in front of, and more importantly WITH us. And it ain't no bedtime story. More like a nightmare. Because we are ALL in this together, like it or not, believe it or not.Just because some people choose to disbelieve this is really happening, doesn't make it go away, doesn't make it any less real.And by the time these 'disbelieving' people finally wake up and realize what has happened, it may be just too late.They should have joined with the rest of us and stopped him at the dinner roll.But instead, I see it now, they are gonna look at the rest of us and ask; WHY didn't you tell us this was happening.News flash, we did. Many, many times.And you instead chose to disbelieve us, chose to ridicule us, chose to insult us, chose to call us racists and every vile name in the book, because we did TRY to warn you.See ya at the fireworks. Happy 4th of July. Let's hope it is not the last. Tattoo Gypsy[image]   Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:37:12 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Once-Upon-A-Time-A-Nightmare-Story/BLOG/420022/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-07-04T21:37:12Z Politics MyFox Orlando Here's an interesting 'bedtime story' I received today.-----------------------------------Once upon a time, I was invited to the White House for a private dinner with the President. I am a respected businessman, with a factory that produces memory chips for computers and portable electronics.There was some talk that my industry was being scrutinized by the administration, but I paid it no mind. I live in a free country.There's nothing that the government can do to me if I've broken no laws. My wealth was earned honestly, and an invitation to dinner with an American President is an honor.I checked my coat, was greeted by the Chief of Staff, and joined the President in a yellow dining room. We sat across from each other at a table draped in white linen. The Great Seal was embossed on the china. Uniformed staff served our dinner.The meal was served, and I was startled when my waiter suddenly reached out, plucked a dinner roll off my plate, and began nibbling it as he walked back to the kitchen."Sorry about that," said the President. "Andrew is very hungry.""I don't appreciate..." I began, but as I looked into the calm brown eyes across from me, I felt immediately guilty and petty.It was just a dinner roll. "Of course," I concluded, and reached for my glass. Before I could, however, another waiter reached forward, took the glass away and swallowed the wine in a single gulp."And his brother Eric is very thirsty." said the President.I didn't say anything. The President is testing my compassion, I thought. I will play along. I don't want to seem unkind. My plate was whisked away before I had tasted a bite."Eric's children are also quite hungry."With a lurch, I crashed to the floor. My chair had been pulled out from under me. I stood, brushing myself off angrily, and watched as it was carried from the room."And their grandmother can't stand for long."I excused myself, smiling outwardly, but inside feeling like a fool.Obviously I had been invited to the White House to be sport for some game. I reached for my coat, to find that it had been taken. I turned back to the President."Their grandfather doesn't like the cold."I wanted to shout- that was my coat! But again, I looked at the placid smiling face of my host and decided I was being a poor sport. I spread my hands helplessly and chuckled.Then I felt my hip pocket and realized my wallet was gone. I excused myself and walked to a phone on an elegant side table.I learned shortly that my credit cards had been maxed out, my bank accounts emptied, my retirement and equity portfolios had vanished, and my wife had been thrown out of our home.Apparently, the waiters and their families were moving in.The President hadn't moved or spoken as I learned all this, but finally I lowered the phone into its cradle and turned to face him."Andrew's whole family has made bad financial decisions. They haven't planned for retirement, and they need a house. They recently defaulted on a sub-prime mortgage. I told them they could have your home. They need it more than you do."My hands were shaking. I felt faint. I stumbled back to the table and knelt on the floor. The President cheerfully cut his meat, ate his steak and drank his wine. I lowered my eyes and stared at the small gray circles on the tablecloth that were water drops."By the way," He added, "I have just signed an Executive Order nationalizing your factories. I'm firing you as head of your business. I'll be operating the firm now for the benefit of all mankind. There's a whole bunch of Eric's and Andrews out there and they can't come to you for jobs groveling like beggars."I looked up. The President dropped his spoon into the empty ramekin which had been his Creme Brulee. He drained the last drops of his wine.As the table was cleared, he lit a cigarette and leaned back in his chair. He stared at me. I clung to the edge of the table as if were a ledge and I were a man hanging over an abyss.I thought of the years behind me, of the life I had lived. The life I had earned with a lifetime of work, risk and struggle. Why was I punished?How had I allowed it to be taken? What game had I played and lost?I looked across the table and noticed with some surprise that there was no game board between us.What had I done wrong?As if answering the unspoken thought, the President suddenly cocked his head, locked his empty eyes to mine, and bared a million teeth, chuckling wryly as he folded his hands."You should have stopped me at the dinner roll," he said.-------------------------------------------------------No, it ain't no 'game'. But it IS being played right now in front of, and more importantly WITH us. And it ain't no bedtime story. More like a nightmare. Because we are ALL in this together, like it or not, believe it or not.Just because some people choose to disbelieve this is really happening, doesn't make it go away, doesn't make it any less real.And by the time these 'disbelieving' people finally wake up and realize what has happened, it may be just too late.They should have joined with the rest of us and stopped him at the dinner roll.But instead, I see it now, they are gonna look at the rest of us and ask; WHY didn't you tell us this was happening.News flash, we did. Many, many times.And you instead chose to disbelieve us, chose to ridicule us, chose to insult us, chose to call us racists and every vile name in the book, because we did TRY to warn you.See ya at the fireworks. Happy 4th of July. Let's hope it is not the last. Tattoo Gypsy[image]   fascism, obama, politics, president, socialism, states, united nonadult false Once Upon A Time A Nightmare Story text blog fascism,obama,politics,president,socialism,states,united 113 4 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 7 1 420022 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_A-Total-Gangster-Government/BLOG/417976/72667.html  Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) speaking on the House floor: Now we've moved into the realm of gangster government.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIYWe have gangster government when the Federal Government has set up a new cartel and private businesses now have to go begging with their hand out to their local, hopefully well politically connected, Congressman or their Senator so they can buy a peace offering for that local business.Is that the kind of country we are going to have in the future? A Total Gangster Government?Yep, kinda looks that way. And you can bet, it's gonna get much worse. --------------------Tattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/ [image]  Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) speaking on the House floor: Now we've moved into the realm of gangster government.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIYWe have gangster government when the Federal Government has set up a new cartel and private businesses now have to go begging with their hand out to their local, hopefully well politically connected, Congressman or their Senator so they can buy a peace offering for that local business.Is that the kind of country we are going to have in the future? A Total Gangster Government?Yep, kinda looks that way. And you can bet, it's gonna get much worse. --------------------Tattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/ [image] Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:16:37 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_A-Total-Gangster-Government/BLOG/417976/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-07-02T22:16:37Z Politics MyFox Orlando  Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) speaking on the House floor: Now we've moved into the realm of gangster government.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIYWe have gangster government when the Federal Government has set up a new cartel and private businesses now have to go begging with their hand out to their local, hopefully well politically connected, Congressman or their Senator so they can buy a peace offering for that local business.Is that the kind of country we are going to have in the future? A Total Gangster Government?Yep, kinda looks that way. And you can bet, it's gonna get much worse. --------------------Tattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/ [image] america, fascist, government, liberal, obama, politics, socialist nonadult false A Total Gangster Government text blog america,fascist,government,liberal,obama,politics,socialist 94 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 5 0 417976 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_More-Obama-Birth-Cert-Crap/BLOG/416614/72667.html So I was reading on a forum where once again, someone has brought up the 'issue' over Barack Hussein Obama's 'birth-certificate' and if indeed Obama is a 'natural born citizen'.It had actually grown to around 75 or 80 comments and God only knows how many pages. And it brought me back to my previous post about Obama being a snake oil salesman.Now before I get started here, I think it is already pretty obvious to most people, I truly dislike Obama and personally think he is probably the worst thing to ever happen to this country. NOT based on some birth certificate issue, but based on Obama's own fascist ideology. Now that's MY opinion, don't like it tough chit. THAT is not the reason for this post. As much as I dislike Obama, and even though I had a couple questions regarding some of the issues around his birth, I personally believe he probably was actually born in Hawaii. If not, there are way too many people who dislike him to the point that SOMEONE SOMEWHERE would have been able to dig out verifiable 100% no doubt proof he was not born in Hawaii. But lets look at a couple undisputed facts. Fact; We do know several (a dozen or so) lawsuits have been filed against Obama on this birth certificate issue. Fact; We also know either all, or a vast majority of all, have been dismissed. Pardon me if I am not up-to-date on every one of the large number of lawsuits that have been dismissed. Not in my job description. My first question used to be was I wondered at the amount of money that Obama has had to spend on legal fees.So far last count I had heard was nearly a million bucks, to have attorneys constantly fighting this birth certificate non-issue in court.So some say he does, some say he doesn't. Since I cannot look in his checkbook, I got no clue. Outside of 'guessing' no one else here does either. But it really doesn't matter. My next question used to be if it was such a non-issue, why bother spending all that money in the first place, IF indeed he is spending anything at all? Yeah, there are questions about his father, Pakistan, his step-father, even some issues about his 'real' name and some college questions. Most of the answers will never really satisfy some of the people who dislike Obama. But for the most part, even though I have some 'questions' I am not really satisfied with the answers I have heard, these are issues that simply will not go anywhere. Not ever.And they are NOT meant to go away, NOT EVER go away. The very same people who talk about how blind the koolaid drinkers are, in some ways, are just as blind. Let me explain that. SOME, not all, SOME in the anti-Obama crowd, refer to how blind the koolaid drinkers are because they cannot see (to them) the obvious things like the socialist or fascist direction (depending on your point of view) that Obama is taking this country. SOME of those same anti-Obama crowd, that talk about that, fail to see past the things like this birth certificate non-issue. And fail to see beyond the father, Pakistan, his step-father and his 'real' name non-issues.That allows Obama to play his slick talking snake oil salesman act. He keeps people busy on the non-issues with the one hand, and with the other hand creates more and more damage with things like socialized healthcare, take over of private businesses, bailouts, Cap and Traitor, and who knows what else behind the scenes. Obama is like that old spaghetti western movie snake oil salesman I talked about in my previous post.He keeps ya distracted with things that don't matter (like this birth cert), while in the meantime, he does everything he can to lift your wallet and separate you from your money. IF Obama was not a natural born citizen, by now he could have simply had some shmoe fabricate a birth certificate and presented it and made all this just go away. The fact he has not, and obviously has no intention on producing anything but what he already has produced, tells me 3 things. 1. Either way, it simply does not matter. Either he really is natural born, or he is not.2. Either way, Obama knows he could re-present a birth certificate or have one manufactured, that would put the issue to rest.3. That fact he does not and instead relies on a birth certificate that some people do not accept, is nothing more than a way to create a distraction for some of his detractors. And as long as he can keep even some people distracted, he gets to keep on doing what he's doing. For a lot of us, that means continuing to try and destroy this Republic built on Capitalism and the Constitution. Some people have been blinded by dislike and even hate for Obama. Others have been blinded by their adoration and god-like worship of this Messiah that he can do no wrong. More people on both sides really need to wake up. Tattoo Gypsy [image]  So I was reading on a forum where once again, someone has brought up the 'issue' over Barack Hussein Obama's 'birth-certificate' and if indeed Obama is a 'natural born citizen'.It had actually grown to around 75 or 80 comments and God only knows how many pages. And it brought me back to my previous post about Obama being a snake oil salesman.Now before I get started here, I think it is already pretty obvious to most people, I truly dislike Obama and personally think he is probably the worst thing to ever happen to this country. NOT based on some birth certificate issue, but based on Obama's own fascist ideology. Now that's MY opinion, don't like it tough chit. THAT is not the reason for this post. As much as I dislike Obama, and even though I had a couple questions regarding some of the issues around his birth, I personally believe he probably was actually born in Hawaii. If not, there are way too many people who dislike him to the point that SOMEONE SOMEWHERE would have been able to dig out verifiable 100% no doubt proof he was not born in Hawaii. But lets look at a couple undisputed facts. Fact; We do know several (a dozen or so) lawsuits have been filed against Obama on this birth certificate issue. Fact; We also know either all, or a vast majority of all, have been dismissed. Pardon me if I am not up-to-date on every one of the large number of lawsuits that have been dismissed. Not in my job description. My first question used to be was I wondered at the amount of money that Obama has had to spend on legal fees.So far last count I had heard was nearly a million bucks, to have attorneys constantly fighting this birth certificate non-issue in court.So some say he does, some say he doesn't. Since I cannot look in his checkbook, I got no clue. Outside of 'guessing' no one else here does either. But it really doesn't matter. My next question used to be if it was such a non-issue, why bother spending all that money in the first place, IF indeed he is spending anything at all? Yeah, there are questions about his father, Pakistan, his step-father, even some issues about his 'real' name and some college questions. Most of the answers will never really satisfy some of the people who dislike Obama. But for the most part, even though I have some 'questions' I am not really satisfied with the answers I have heard, these are issues that simply will not go anywhere. Not ever.And they are NOT meant to go away, NOT EVER go away. The very same people who talk about how blind the koolaid drinkers are, in some ways, are just as blind. Let me explain that. SOME, not all, SOME in the anti-Obama crowd, refer to how blind the koolaid drinkers are because they cannot see (to them) the obvious things like the socialist or fascist direction (depending on your point of view) that Obama is taking this country. SOME of those same anti-Obama crowd, that talk about that, fail to see past the things like this birth certificate non-issue. And fail to see beyond the father, Pakistan, his step-father and his 'real' name non-issues.That allows Obama to play his slick talking snake oil salesman act. He keeps people busy on the non-issues with the one hand, and with the other hand creates more and more damage with things like socialized healthcare, take over of private businesses, bailouts, Cap and Traitor, and who knows what else behind the scenes. Obama is like that old spaghetti western movie snake oil salesman I talked about in my previous post.He keeps ya distracted with things that don't matter (like this birth cert), while in the meantime, he does everything he can to lift your wallet and separate you from your money. IF Obama was not a natural born citizen, by now he could have simply had some shmoe fabricate a birth certificate and presented it and made all this just go away. The fact he has not, and obviously has no intention on producing anything but what he already has produced, tells me 3 things. 1. Either way, it simply does not matter. Either he really is natural born, or he is not.2. Either way, Obama knows he could re-present a birth certificate or have one manufactured, that would put the issue to rest.3. That fact he does not and instead relies on a birth certificate that some people do not accept, is nothing more than a way to create a distraction for some of his detractors. And as long as he can keep even some people distracted, he gets to keep on doing what he's doing. For a lot of us, that means continuing to try and destroy this Republic built on Capitalism and the Constitution. Some people have been blinded by dislike and even hate for Obama. Others have been blinded by their adoration and god-like worship of this Messiah that he can do no wrong. More people on both sides really need to wake up. Tattoo Gypsy [image]  Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:39:59 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_More-Obama-Birth-Cert-Crap/BLOG/416614/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-07-01T23:39:59Z Politics MyFox Orlando So I was reading on a forum where once again, someone has brought up the 'issue' over Barack Hussein Obama's 'birth-certificate' and if indeed Obama is a 'natural born citizen'.It had actually grown to around 75 or 80 comments and God only knows how many pages. And it brought me back to my previous post about Obama being a snake oil salesman.Now before I get started here, I think it is already pretty obvious to most people, I truly dislike Obama and personally think he is probably the worst thing to ever happen to this country. NOT based on some birth certificate issue, but based on Obama's own fascist ideology. Now that's MY opinion, don't like it tough chit. THAT is not the reason for this post. As much as I dislike Obama, and even though I had a couple questions regarding some of the issues around his birth, I personally believe he probably was actually born in Hawaii. If not, there are way too many people who dislike him to the point that SOMEONE SOMEWHERE would have been able to dig out verifiable 100% no doubt proof he was not born in Hawaii. But lets look at a couple undisputed facts. Fact; We do know several (a dozen or so) lawsuits have been filed against Obama on this birth certificate issue. Fact; We also know either all, or a vast majority of all, have been dismissed. Pardon me if I am not up-to-date on every one of the large number of lawsuits that have been dismissed. Not in my job description. My first question used to be was I wondered at the amount of money that Obama has had to spend on legal fees.So far last count I had heard was nearly a million bucks, to have attorneys constantly fighting this birth certificate non-issue in court.So some say he does, some say he doesn't. Since I cannot look in his checkbook, I got no clue. Outside of 'guessing' no one else here does either. But it really doesn't matter. My next question used to be if it was such a non-issue, why bother spending all that money in the first place, IF indeed he is spending anything at all? Yeah, there are questions about his father, Pakistan, his step-father, even some issues about his 'real' name and some college questions. Most of the answers will never really satisfy some of the people who dislike Obama. But for the most part, even though I have some 'questions' I am not really satisfied with the answers I have heard, these are issues that simply will not go anywhere. Not ever.And they are NOT meant to go away, NOT EVER go away. The very same people who talk about how blind the koolaid drinkers are, in some ways, are just as blind. Let me explain that. SOME, not all, SOME in the anti-Obama crowd, refer to how blind the koolaid drinkers are because they cannot see (to them) the obvious things like the socialist or fascist direction (depending on your point of view) that Obama is taking this country. SOME of those same anti-Obama crowd, that talk about that, fail to see past the things like this birth certificate non-issue. And fail to see beyond the father, Pakistan, his step-father and his 'real' name non-issues.That allows Obama to play his slick talking snake oil salesman act. He keeps people busy on the non-issues with the one hand, and with the other hand creates more and more damage with things like socialized healthcare, take over of private businesses, bailouts, Cap and Traitor, and who knows what else behind the scenes. Obama is like that old spaghetti western movie snake oil salesman I talked about in my previous post.He keeps ya distracted with things that don't matter (like this birth cert), while in the meantime, he does everything he can to lift your wallet and separate you from your money. IF Obama was not a natural born citizen, by now he could have simply had some shmoe fabricate a birth certificate and presented it and made all this just go away. The fact he has not, and obviously has no intention on producing anything but what he already has produced, tells me 3 things. 1. Either way, it simply does not matter. Either he really is natural born, or he is not.2. Either way, Obama knows he could re-present a birth certificate or have one manufactured, that would put the issue to rest.3. That fact he does not and instead relies on a birth certificate that some people do not accept, is nothing more than a way to create a distraction for some of his detractors. And as long as he can keep even some people distracted, he gets to keep on doing what he's doing. For a lot of us, that means continuing to try and destroy this Republic built on Capitalism and the Constitution. Some people have been blinded by dislike and even hate for Obama. Others have been blinded by their adoration and god-like worship of this Messiah that he can do no wrong. More people on both sides really need to wake up. Tattoo Gypsy [image]  birth, certificate, koolaid, liberal, obama, politics, president nonadult false More Obama Birth Cert Crap text blog birth,certificate,koolaid,liberal,obama,politics,president 161 2 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 15 1 416614 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Snake-Oil-Salesman-Modern-Day/BLOG/415351/72667.html OK, I'll admit it, it has taken me a while, but I finally figured out who-what President Barack Hussein Obama reminds me of.A Snake Oil Salesman.THAT'S what he reminds me of.Remember those old movie spaghetti westerns?And I also remember my Texas Ranger Grandfather also used to tell me stories about the famous old western snake oil salesmen.These used to travel around town to town, selling 'snake oil' and it would supposedly cure everything from dipshitz to baldness.In the days of the Old West, snake oil salesmen were the smooth-slick talkerswho traveled through dusty towns peddling useless concoctions to the locals.Those locals generally being plain hard-working folks, predominantly uneducated, gathered around the wagons of these ultra charismatic schemers, con-men and slick talkers, to hear about the latest product "guaranteed to improve your life".After being regaled with tales of these miraculous healing potions, many purchased a bottle of the impressive-sounding elixir and accepted the financial sacrifice as an investment in a healthier future.By the time the victims discovered that they had been duped, the "grifters" were long gone.Kinda sounds like what we constantly hear lately from just about everyone in Washington DC, starting with Obama.Today, these much more sophisticated versions of the old west snake oil peddler are those who are trying to sell us on everything everything from Global Warming to Socialized Healthcare, to Government Motors.All of course from a 'benevolent government' who is simply trying to 'improve our lives'. GAG. And they are so good, they can actually say it with a straight face.These slick Washington DC thieves tantalize the gullible with claims of the better life ahead with a if we simply buy into the bullcrap President Obama and a great majority of Congress keep trying to sell us.Obama really does remind me of an old western slick talking snake oil salesman. The same salesmen who if he were not careful, got run outta town on a rail, or tarred and feathered and then run outta town.Yep, a snake oil salesman.Or kinda like one of those slick talking used car salesmen who would promise on a stack of Bibles that the hunk of junk car you were looking at was only driven once a week to church by a 85 year old lady.Nothing but bullchit.A slick talkin' snake oil salesman, THAT's what Obama and the cretins in Washington DC remind me of.Just took me a while to figure it out.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/ OK, I'll admit it, it has taken me a while, but I finally figured out who-what President Barack Hussein Obama reminds me of.A Snake Oil Salesman.THAT'S what he reminds me of.Remember those old movie spaghetti westerns?And I also remember my Texas Ranger Grandfather also used to tell me stories about the famous old western snake oil salesmen.These used to travel around town to town, selling 'snake oil' and it would supposedly cure everything from dipshitz to baldness.In the days of the Old West, snake oil salesmen were the smooth-slick talkerswho traveled through dusty towns peddling useless concoctions to the locals.Those locals generally being plain hard-working folks, predominantly uneducated, gathered around the wagons of these ultra charismatic schemers, con-men and slick talkers, to hear about the latest product "guaranteed to improve your life".After being regaled with tales of these miraculous healing potions, many purchased a bottle of the impressive-sounding elixir and accepted the financial sacrifice as an investment in a healthier future.By the time the victims discovered that they had been duped, the "grifters" were long gone.Kinda sounds like what we constantly hear lately from just about everyone in Washington DC, starting with Obama.Today, these much more sophisticated versions of the old west snake oil peddler are those who are trying to sell us on everything everything from Global Warming to Socialized Healthcare, to Government Motors.All of course from a 'benevolent government' who is simply trying to 'improve our lives'. GAG. And they are so good, they can actually say it with a straight face.These slick Washington DC thieves tantalize the gullible with claims of the better life ahead with a if we simply buy into the bullcrap President Obama and a great majority of Congress keep trying to sell us.Obama really does remind me of an old western slick talking snake oil salesman. The same salesmen who if he were not careful, got run outta town on a rail, or tarred and feathered and then run outta town.Yep, a snake oil salesman.Or kinda like one of those slick talking used car salesmen who would promise on a stack of Bibles that the hunk of junk car you were looking at was only driven once a week to church by a 85 year old lady.Nothing but bullchit.A slick talkin' snake oil salesman, THAT's what Obama and the cretins in Washington DC remind me of.Just took me a while to figure it out.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/ Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:55:44 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Snake-Oil-Salesman-Modern-Day/BLOG/415351/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-07-01T03:55:44Z Politics MyFox Orlando OK, I'll admit it, it has taken me a while, but I finally figured out who-what President Barack Hussein Obama reminds me of.A Snake Oil Salesman.THAT'S what he reminds me of.Remember those old movie spaghetti westerns?And I also remember my Texas Ranger Grandfather also used to tell me stories about the famous old western snake oil salesmen.These used to travel around town to town, selling 'snake oil' and it would supposedly cure everything from dipshitz to baldness.In the days of the Old West, snake oil salesmen were the smooth-slick talkerswho traveled through dusty towns peddling useless concoctions to the locals.Those locals generally being plain hard-working folks, predominantly uneducated, gathered around the wagons of these ultra charismatic schemers, con-men and slick talkers, to hear about the latest product "guaranteed to improve your life".After being regaled with tales of these miraculous healing potions, many purchased a bottle of the impressive-sounding elixir and accepted the financial sacrifice as an investment in a healthier future.By the time the victims discovered that they had been duped, the "grifters" were long gone.Kinda sounds like what we constantly hear lately from just about everyone in Washington DC, starting with Obama.Today, these much more sophisticated versions of the old west snake oil peddler are those who are trying to sell us on everything everything from Global Warming to Socialized Healthcare, to Government Motors.All of course from a 'benevolent government' who is simply trying to 'improve our lives'. GAG. And they are so good, they can actually say it with a straight face.These slick Washington DC thieves tantalize the gullible with claims of the better life ahead with a if we simply buy into the bullcrap President Obama and a great majority of Congress keep trying to sell us.Obama really does remind me of an old western slick talking snake oil salesman. The same salesmen who if he were not careful, got run outta town on a rail, or tarred and feathered and then run outta town.Yep, a snake oil salesman.Or kinda like one of those slick talking used car salesmen who would promise on a stack of Bibles that the hunk of junk car you were looking at was only driven once a week to church by a 85 year old lady.Nothing but bullchit.A slick talkin' snake oil salesman, THAT's what Obama and the cretins in Washington DC remind me of.Just took me a while to figure it out.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/ bullcrap, congress, liberal, obama, politics nonadult false Snake Oil Salesman, Modern Day text blog bullcrap,congress,liberal,obama,politics 123 2 3.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 6 0 415351 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Die-Ya-Old-Sucker-DIE/BLOG/410338/72667.html According to the Los Angeles Times:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-health25-2009jun25,0,1978875.story  President Obama suggested at a town hall event that one way to reduce medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die.Hell, if that were the case, more than a few people I know probably would not be here.In President Obama's national televised Infomercial with ABC News (the All Barack Channel) at the White House yesterday, President Obama said, quote:"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller."Well OK, then.Guess it's now time for what? The famous Soylent Green?For those of you too young to remember the movie Soylent Green, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green  So, all you old people: Uncle Sam says screw you.In the future is Uncle Sam gonna put you on an bed of fake roses, let you watch some home movies, and get you to float away to your version of Heaven, or Valhalla?Or simply turn you into Soylent Green?Is that with or without your consent?Medical decisions should be, and must be, made by patients, their families, and their doctors, not by some damned government bureaucrat.BUT that doesn't appear to be what President Obama has in store for us through his new 'ObamaCare'. Unless of course, you are RICH, or you are one of President Barack Hussein Obama's FAMILY. He has already stated he would pay out of his own pocket to take care of HIS family. But the rest of us, who cannot afford $30,000 surgeries, yeah, guess we are stuck with whatever the federal government decides is 'appropriate' care.And if ya die, well, according to Obama, it will save the 'government' and 'taxpayers' because you probably didn't need that care in the first place, and besides, it wasn't 'cost effective'.I got's two words for Obama and his 'Obama-Care' and they ain't happy birthday.Personally, I have kicked the Grim Reapers azz twice when he came for me.And if some government bureaucrap sends that Grim Reaper a 3rd time, guess I'll just have to get outta that hospital bed to kick BOTH their collective azzes.And shame on any of them if ANY government bureaucraps sends the Grim Reaper after one of my family, wife, kids, grandkids, or anyone else I love.Cause then it's DinkyDau time.There is an old Latin phrase from The Odes, which is a collection of four books of Latin prose written by the Roman Poet Horace, and published around 23 BC."Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori."In English, it translates into: "How noble and glorious it is to die for one's country."NOT so noble and glorious when that 'death' is caused by being denied health care by some government bureaucrap.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] According to the Los Angeles Times:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-health25-2009jun25,0,1978875.story  President Obama suggested at a town hall event that one way to reduce medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die.Hell, if that were the case, more than a few people I know probably would not be here.In President Obama's national televised Infomercial with ABC News (the All Barack Channel) at the White House yesterday, President Obama said, quote:"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller."Well OK, then.Guess it's now time for what? The famous Soylent Green?For those of you too young to remember the movie Soylent Green, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green  So, all you old people: Uncle Sam says screw you.In the future is Uncle Sam gonna put you on an bed of fake roses, let you watch some home movies, and get you to float away to your version of Heaven, or Valhalla?Or simply turn you into Soylent Green?Is that with or without your consent?Medical decisions should be, and must be, made by patients, their families, and their doctors, not by some damned government bureaucrat.BUT that doesn't appear to be what President Obama has in store for us through his new 'ObamaCare'. Unless of course, you are RICH, or you are one of President Barack Hussein Obama's FAMILY. He has already stated he would pay out of his own pocket to take care of HIS family. But the rest of us, who cannot afford $30,000 surgeries, yeah, guess we are stuck with whatever the federal government decides is 'appropriate' care.And if ya die, well, according to Obama, it will save the 'government' and 'taxpayers' because you probably didn't need that care in the first place, and besides, it wasn't 'cost effective'.I got's two words for Obama and his 'Obama-Care' and they ain't happy birthday.Personally, I have kicked the Grim Reapers azz twice when he came for me.And if some government bureaucrap sends that Grim Reaper a 3rd time, guess I'll just have to get outta that hospital bed to kick BOTH their collective azzes.And shame on any of them if ANY government bureaucraps sends the Grim Reaper after one of my family, wife, kids, grandkids, or anyone else I love.Cause then it's DinkyDau time.There is an old Latin phrase from The Odes, which is a collection of four books of Latin prose written by the Roman Poet Horace, and published around 23 BC."Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori."In English, it translates into: "How noble and glorious it is to die for one's country."NOT so noble and glorious when that 'death' is caused by being denied health care by some government bureaucrap.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:40:05 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Die-Ya-Old-Sucker-DIE/BLOG/410338/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-28T14:40:05Z Politics MyFox Orlando According to the Los Angeles Times:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-health25-2009jun25,0,1978875.story  President Obama suggested at a town hall event that one way to reduce medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die.Hell, if that were the case, more than a few people I know probably would not be here.In President Obama's national televised Infomercial with ABC News (the All Barack Channel) at the White House yesterday, President Obama said, quote:"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller."Well OK, then.Guess it's now time for what? The famous Soylent Green?For those of you too young to remember the movie Soylent Green, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green  So, all you old people: Uncle Sam says screw you.In the future is Uncle Sam gonna put you on an bed of fake roses, let you watch some home movies, and get you to float away to your version of Heaven, or Valhalla?Or simply turn you into Soylent Green?Is that with or without your consent?Medical decisions should be, and must be, made by patients, their families, and their doctors, not by some damned government bureaucrat.BUT that doesn't appear to be what President Obama has in store for us through his new 'ObamaCare'. Unless of course, you are RICH, or you are one of President Barack Hussein Obama's FAMILY. He has already stated he would pay out of his own pocket to take care of HIS family. But the rest of us, who cannot afford $30,000 surgeries, yeah, guess we are stuck with whatever the federal government decides is 'appropriate' care.And if ya die, well, according to Obama, it will save the 'government' and 'taxpayers' because you probably didn't need that care in the first place, and besides, it wasn't 'cost effective'.I got's two words for Obama and his 'Obama-Care' and they ain't happy birthday.Personally, I have kicked the Grim Reapers azz twice when he came for me.And if some government bureaucrap sends that Grim Reaper a 3rd time, guess I'll just have to get outta that hospital bed to kick BOTH their collective azzes.And shame on any of them if ANY government bureaucraps sends the Grim Reaper after one of my family, wife, kids, grandkids, or anyone else I love.Cause then it's DinkyDau time.There is an old Latin phrase from The Odes, which is a collection of four books of Latin prose written by the Roman Poet Horace, and published around 23 BC."Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori."In English, it translates into: "How noble and glorious it is to die for one's country."NOT so noble and glorious when that 'death' is caused by being denied health care by some government bureaucrap.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] care, health, hospital, insurance, medical, obama, obamacare, politics nonadult false Die Ya Old Sucker, DIE text blog care,health,hospital,insurance,medical,obama,obamacare,politics 111 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 9 0 410338 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Cap-Trade-Huge-Tax-Increase/BLOG/410327/72667.html     They past the first hurdle couple days ago, when this 'Cap & Trade' bill, oh hell, don't call it a 'bill' call it what is it, an ENERGY TAX. Well, it passed the House in Congress couple days ago.Now it goes on to the Senate, then on to Obama's desk for his signature, and then on in to OUR wallets.Ya see, and everyone one of those idiots in Washington DC already know this, but there has never been a single business that ever paid a single dime in taxes or costs to any government. Nope.The business instead passes on the costs of doing business, in this case higher costs to that business for making their product, they pass that cost on to you and I, the consumer, in the form of higher prices.In fact, overstating the obvious, Peter Orszag -- now Mr. Obama's budget director -- told Congress last year that "Those price increases are essential to the success of a cap-and-trade program." OUCH.Hell, even Barack Obama himself stated, and I quote: " Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, you name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers." Barack Obama, San Francisco Chronicle January 2008.Some estimates go as high as $3000 a year for the 'average family'.That would about double my personal electric bill, every year.Keep in mind, that poor and middle-income households spend more of their paychecks on things like gas to drive to work, groceries, electricity and home heating.Oh, and if YOURS and MY cost of electric goes up, even by 50%, hell, even really lowball it and say it only goes up by 25%.Keep in mind, so then will the grocery store electric bill go up that 25% or 50%.But so does the cost for the farmer who grew that corn, and the dairy farmer, who has those milk cows, and the beef rancher who grows those beef cows.Plus the additional costs to get that food and milk to the grocery store in the first place.Oh, and that gallon of gas or diesel, look out. First the refinery has to charge more for the cost of refining that crude oil into gas. Then the truck company has to charge more to pay for the diesel fuel to haul that gasoline tanker from the Texas refinery to Florida, or Ohio, or wherever.Sure, if you're rich like Al Gore, or Nancy Pelosi, or you have your energy bills paid for by the American Taxpayers like President Obama does (who in winter time keeps the White House hot enough to grow orchids) yeah, that higher energy bill isn't gonna matter.As one person put it, and I quote " Cap and trade, in other words, is a scheme to redistribute income and wealth -- but in a very curious way. It takes from the working class and gives to the affluent; takes from Miami, Ohio, and gives to Miami, Florida; and takes from an industrial America that is already struggling and gives to rich Silicon Valley and Wall Street "green tech" investors who know how to leverage the political class." Even some Democrats from manufacturing-heavy districts argue that cap and trade would send jobs overseas to countries with more-lax energy standards."The reality is, the cap-and-trade legislation offered by the Democrats amounts to an economic declaration of war on the Midwest by liberals on Capitol Hill," said Mike Pence Congressman from Indiana.According to an analysis of climate legislation performed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the cap-and-trade system favored by President Barack Obama and many congressional Democrats could damage the U.S. manufacturing sector and force jobs to move overseas.As the EPA states: "A cap-and-trade policy increases the price of energy-intensive goods. The majority of this price increase is ultimately passed onto consumers. … Lower income households are disproportionately affected by a GHG (Green House Gas) cap-and-trade policy because they spend a higher fraction of their incomes on energy-intensive goods." http://cnsnews.comSo, if you are not all that wealthy, if you are concerned about even higher unemployment, and you don't want to see a major increase in your cost of living, then ya might just want to do as I did, call your Senators or a letter or email telling them if they vote for this Cap & Trade bill, they will not get your vote come election time.Me, I just send emails. I go to  http://www.rallycongress.com/letter2congress/698/send-email-to-congress/Put in my zip code, it gives me my Congressmen, and I send the same email to all three at one time.In this case, feel free to copy and paste the one below here that I sent to mine.Dear Congressman, I am one of your constituents. I wanted you to know I am dead set against this Cap & Trade legislation that is being proposed. Not only do I see it hurting the average American Consumer as a huge tax increase, I also see the potential for even more American job loss. If you have voted against, or plan to vote against the Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade bill, my thanks. This means you shall have my continued support. If however you voted for, or plan to vote for the Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade bill, then you will not have my support or my vote, or the vote of my friends and family come election time. Thank you for your time. Paste that into the email, sign it and send it to your congressman.Hopefully, if enough of us keep sending this to our Congressmen they might realize it is in their best interests to vote this Cap & Trade tax down.Semper FiTattoo Gypsyhttp://tattoo-gypsy.blogspot.com/  (The Political Blog)      They past the first hurdle couple days ago, when this 'Cap & Trade' bill, oh hell, don't call it a 'bill' call it what is it, an ENERGY TAX. Well, it passed the House in Congress couple days ago.Now it goes on to the Senate, then on to Obama's desk for his signature, and then on in to OUR wallets.Ya see, and everyone one of those idiots in Washington DC already know this, but there has never been a single business that ever paid a single dime in taxes or costs to any government. Nope.The business instead passes on the costs of doing business, in this case higher costs to that business for making their product, they pass that cost on to you and I, the consumer, in the form of higher prices.In fact, overstating the obvious, Peter Orszag -- now Mr. Obama's budget director -- told Congress last year that "Those price increases are essential to the success of a cap-and-trade program." OUCH.Hell, even Barack Obama himself stated, and I quote: " Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, you name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers." Barack Obama, San Francisco Chronicle January 2008.Some estimates go as high as $3000 a year for the 'average family'.That would about double my personal electric bill, every year.Keep in mind, that poor and middle-income households spend more of their paychecks on things like gas to drive to work, groceries, electricity and home heating.Oh, and if YOURS and MY cost of electric goes up, even by 50%, hell, even really lowball it and say it only goes up by 25%.Keep in mind, so then will the grocery store electric bill go up that 25% or 50%.But so does the cost for the farmer who grew that corn, and the dairy farmer, who has those milk cows, and the beef rancher who grows those beef cows.Plus the additional costs to get that food and milk to the grocery store in the first place.Oh, and that gallon of gas or diesel, look out. First the refinery has to charge more for the cost of refining that crude oil into gas. Then the truck company has to charge more to pay for the diesel fuel to haul that gasoline tanker from the Texas refinery to Florida, or Ohio, or wherever.Sure, if you're rich like Al Gore, or Nancy Pelosi, or you have your energy bills paid for by the American Taxpayers like President Obama does (who in winter time keeps the White House hot enough to grow orchids) yeah, that higher energy bill isn't gonna matter.As one person put it, and I quote " Cap and trade, in other words, is a scheme to redistribute income and wealth -- but in a very curious way. It takes from the working class and gives to the affluent; takes from Miami, Ohio, and gives to Miami, Florida; and takes from an industrial America that is already struggling and gives to rich Silicon Valley and Wall Street "green tech" investors who know how to leverage the political class." Even some Democrats from manufacturing-heavy districts argue that cap and trade would send jobs overseas to countries with more-lax energy standards."The reality is, the cap-and-trade legislation offered by the Democrats amounts to an economic declaration of war on the Midwest by liberals on Capitol Hill," said Mike Pence Congressman from Indiana.According to an analysis of climate legislation performed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the cap-and-trade system favored by President Barack Obama and many congressional Democrats could damage the U.S. manufacturing sector and force jobs to move overseas.As the EPA states: "A cap-and-trade policy increases the price of energy-intensive goods. The majority of this price increase is ultimately passed onto consumers. … Lower income households are disproportionately affected by a GHG (Green House Gas) cap-and-trade policy because they spend a higher fraction of their incomes on energy-intensive goods." http://cnsnews.comSo, if you are not all that wealthy, if you are concerned about even higher unemployment, and you don't want to see a major increase in your cost of living, then ya might just want to do as I did, call your Senators or a letter or email telling them if they vote for this Cap & Trade bill, they will not get your vote come election time.Me, I just send emails. I go to  http://www.rallycongress.com/letter2congress/698/send-email-to-congress/Put in my zip code, it gives me my Congressmen, and I send the same email to all three at one time.In this case, feel free to copy and paste the one below here that I sent to mine.Dear Congressman, I am one of your constituents. I wanted you to know I am dead set against this Cap & Trade legislation that is being proposed. Not only do I see it hurting the average American Consumer as a huge tax increase, I also see the potential for even more American job loss. If you have voted against, or plan to vote against the Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade bill, my thanks. This means you shall have my continued support. If however you voted for, or plan to vote for the Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade bill, then you will not have my support or my vote, or the vote of my friends and family come election time. Thank you for your time. Paste that into the email, sign it and send it to your congressman.Hopefully, if enough of us keep sending this to our Congressmen they might realize it is in their best interests to vote this Cap & Trade tax down.Semper FiTattoo Gypsyhttp://tattoo-gypsy.blogspot.com/  (The Political Blog)  Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:24:35 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Cap-Trade-Huge-Tax-Increase/BLOG/410327/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-28T14:24:35Z News MyFox Orlando     They past the first hurdle couple days ago, when this 'Cap & Trade' bill, oh hell, don't call it a 'bill' call it what is it, an ENERGY TAX. Well, it passed the House in Congress couple days ago.Now it goes on to the Senate, then on to Obama's desk for his signature, and then on in to OUR wallets.Ya see, and everyone one of those idiots in Washington DC already know this, but there has never been a single business that ever paid a single dime in taxes or costs to any government. Nope.The business instead passes on the costs of doing business, in this case higher costs to that business for making their product, they pass that cost on to you and I, the consumer, in the form of higher prices.In fact, overstating the obvious, Peter Orszag -- now Mr. Obama's budget director -- told Congress last year that "Those price increases are essential to the success of a cap-and-trade program." OUCH.Hell, even Barack Obama himself stated, and I quote: " Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, you name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers." Barack Obama, San Francisco Chronicle January 2008.Some estimates go as high as $3000 a year for the 'average family'.That would about double my personal electric bill, every year.Keep in mind, that poor and middle-income households spend more of their paychecks on things like gas to drive to work, groceries, electricity and home heating.Oh, and if YOURS and MY cost of electric goes up, even by 50%, hell, even really lowball it and say it only goes up by 25%.Keep in mind, so then will the grocery store electric bill go up that 25% or 50%.But so does the cost for the farmer who grew that corn, and the dairy farmer, who has those milk cows, and the beef rancher who grows those beef cows.Plus the additional costs to get that food and milk to the grocery store in the first place.Oh, and that gallon of gas or diesel, look out. First the refinery has to charge more for the cost of refining that crude oil into gas. Then the truck company has to charge more to pay for the diesel fuel to haul that gasoline tanker from the Texas refinery to Florida, or Ohio, or wherever.Sure, if you're rich like Al Gore, or Nancy Pelosi, or you have your energy bills paid for by the American Taxpayers like President Obama does (who in winter time keeps the White House hot enough to grow orchids) yeah, that higher energy bill isn't gonna matter.As one person put it, and I quote " Cap and trade, in other words, is a scheme to redistribute income and wealth -- but in a very curious way. It takes from the working class and gives to the affluent; takes from Miami, Ohio, and gives to Miami, Florida; and takes from an industrial America that is already struggling and gives to rich Silicon Valley and Wall Street "green tech" investors who know how to leverage the political class." Even some Democrats from manufacturing-heavy districts argue that cap and trade would send jobs overseas to countries with more-lax energy standards."The reality is, the cap-and-trade legislation offered by the Democrats amounts to an economic declaration of war on the Midwest by liberals on Capitol Hill," said Mike Pence Congressman from Indiana.According to an analysis of climate legislation performed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the cap-and-trade system favored by President Barack Obama and many congressional Democrats could damage the U.S. manufacturing sector and force jobs to move overseas.As the EPA states: "A cap-and-trade policy increases the price of energy-intensive goods. The majority of this price increase is ultimately passed onto consumers. … Lower income households are disproportionately affected by a GHG (Green House Gas) cap-and-trade policy because they spend a higher fraction of their incomes on energy-intensive goods." http://cnsnews.comSo, if you are not all that wealthy, if you are concerned about even higher unemployment, and you don't want to see a major increase in your cost of living, then ya might just want to do as I did, call your Senators or a letter or email telling them if they vote for this Cap & Trade bill, they will not get your vote come election time.Me, I just send emails. I go to  http://www.rallycongress.com/letter2congress/698/send-email-to-congress/Put in my zip code, it gives me my Congressmen, and I send the same email to all three at one time.In this case, feel free to copy and paste the one below here that I sent to mine.Dear Congressman, I am one of your constituents. I wanted you to know I am dead set against this Cap & Trade legislation that is being proposed. Not only do I see it hurting the average American Consumer as a huge tax increase, I also see the potential for even more American job loss. If you have voted against, or plan to vote against the Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade bill, my thanks. This means you shall have my continued support. If however you voted for, or plan to vote for the Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade bill, then you will not have my support or my vote, or the vote of my friends and family come election time. Thank you for your time. Paste that into the email, sign it and send it to your congressman.Hopefully, if enough of us keep sending this to our Congressmen they might realize it is in their best interests to vote this Cap & Trade tax down.Semper FiTattoo Gypsyhttp://tattoo-gypsy.blogspot.com/  (The Political Blog)  and, cap, news, obama, senate, tax, taxes, trade nonadult false Cap & Trade = Huge Tax Increase text blog and,cap,news,obama,senate,tax,taxes,trade 101 2 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 4 0 410327 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Dems-Revolt-2ed-Time/BLOG/397065/72667.html  I gotta admit, at first, I was seriously pissed off my posting got hacked, again.But then I thought about it, and realized, I should take it as a compliment. After all, for my postings to get hacked, time and again, must mean, in very simple terms, someone is really running scared. The truth of what I post, must have the koolaid drinking liberals really chitting their britches.Since they know they cannot defeat the truth, they instead choose to hack and spam my postings. Thanks Walt for letting me know. I had not had time to check on things today.OK boys and girls, I am re-posting the same topic. I deleted the last one. Of course, it would be nice if the moderators there would take care of this hacking-spammer thing once and for all.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Seems it's finally starting to come around to maybe bite Obama in the azz. And this time, from the people in his own party. I've said all along, eventually some of the Democrats who voted for Obama would wake up and start thinking for themselves.  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23828.html Politico today was writing about how 'rural democrats' are getting more and more pizzed off with and at President Obama and his 'policies'. It seems that Obama's decisions on everything from greenhouse gases to car dealerships, are causing congressional Democrats from rural districts to start revolting against President Obama’s (fascist, IMO) agenda. "They don’t get rural America," said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. "They form their views of the world in large cities." Cardoza’s critique was aimed at Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency, but it echoes complaints rural-district Democrats have about a number of Obama administration decisions. In the House, rural Democrats threaten to marshal nearly 50 votes against the climate and energy bill backed by the administration. The conflict with rural Democrat burst into the open at the Capitol last week, when rural and moderate Democrat revolted against the decision to close roughly 3,400 General Motors and Chrysler Car Dealerships. Many of whom were still very successful. "In rural jurisdictions, your dealerships are pretty big employers. If you knock out four dealerships, the ripple effects of that are substantial," said Rep. Frank Kratovil (Democrat-Md.), who represents a largely rural Eastern Shore district and is co-sponsoring a bill that could force the auto companies to honor their contracts with the rejected dealerships. Sen. Kay Hagan (Democrat-N.C.) questioned how independent owned and operated businesses have any financial impact on automakers. "None of us can quite understand why they consider dealerships a drag when they are the ones that buy the cars, that take the financial risks. Many of the dealerships that are being closed are profitable."Too bad none of them thought about that before voting for this guy. Obama’s EPA has moved forward quickly on a host of new regulations, including limits on greenhouse gas emissions that farm that will raise costs on farmers. And hey, despite what Obama said about "going after the rich" it seems he forgot that people making less than his so-called 'rich' $250k still have to buy food also. Most of us cannot afford to just fly up to NYC for a dinner date. Or have some pizza dude come in from St Louis. And who do you think is gonna be paying for those additional costs when the farmers costs to grow corn and wheat, or raise cattle and hogs go up? Yep, you got it, the American taxpayer. Right there at the cashier at your local supermarket. And Obama hasn't even really got started too much yet with his cap and trade carbon offsets bullcrap. Wait till THAT starts hitting the farmers and ranchers. Think that steak is expensive now? You ain't seen nothing yet. Al Cross is director of the Institute for Rural Journalism and Community Issues and a veteran Kentucky political reporter; Cross noted that 80 percent of the electricity that rural cooperatives generate comes from coal-fired power plants — the same ones that would take a hit under the current legislation. "It will cost every North Carolinian somewhere in the neighborhood of $2,400 to $3,000 a year in just the electrical surcharge," said Sen. Richard Burr, a Republican who hails from a state Obama carried last year and would like to win again. "That’s a surcharge larger than their annual electric bill." Although to give some credit to the White House; A White House official said the administration is committed to alleviating any disproportionate burden on rural states. "The president has been clear that if there is a disparate impact on certain regions during the transition period, families and businesses should be compensated — the Waxman-Markey legislation includes provisions that do just that," the official said.On second thought, not so much 'credit'. Quote: families and businesses should be compensated. End quote. And exactly HOW is the White House gonna 'compensate' these farmers? With taxpayer money of course. Since the ONLY way the federal government gets money is through either printing it (and causing inflation because then the dollars in your wallet are worth less) either they print the money, or they tax the money. Either way, no matter how ya wanna look at it, we lose. Either we pay more at the store for the same items to cover the higher farmer costs; we pay more in taxes so the fed gov can cover the higher farmers costs; or the fed prints more money making ours worth less and it takes more of the money in or wallets to buy less at the store. Can anyone else say, we're SCREWED.Only nice thing about any of this, is that some of the Democrats are finally starting to wake up and smell the bullcrap Obama have been shoveling for the last 2 years. Tattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/  I gotta admit, at first, I was seriously pissed off my posting got hacked, again.But then I thought about it, and realized, I should take it as a compliment. After all, for my postings to get hacked, time and again, must mean, in very simple terms, someone is really running scared. The truth of what I post, must have the koolaid drinking liberals really chitting their britches.Since they know they cannot defeat the truth, they instead choose to hack and spam my postings. Thanks Walt for letting me know. I had not had time to check on things today.OK boys and girls, I am re-posting the same topic. I deleted the last one. Of course, it would be nice if the moderators there would take care of this hacking-spammer thing once and for all.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Seems it's finally starting to come around to maybe bite Obama in the azz. And this time, from the people in his own party. I've said all along, eventually some of the Democrats who voted for Obama would wake up and start thinking for themselves.  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23828.html Politico today was writing about how 'rural democrats' are getting more and more pizzed off with and at President Obama and his 'policies'. It seems that Obama's decisions on everything from greenhouse gases to car dealerships, are causing congressional Democrats from rural districts to start revolting against President Obama’s (fascist, IMO) agenda. "They don’t get rural America," said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. "They form their views of the world in large cities." Cardoza’s critique was aimed at Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency, but it echoes complaints rural-district Democrats have about a number of Obama administration decisions. In the House, rural Democrats threaten to marshal nearly 50 votes against the climate and energy bill backed by the administration. The conflict with rural Democrat burst into the open at the Capitol last week, when rural and moderate Democrat revolted against the decision to close roughly 3,400 General Motors and Chrysler Car Dealerships. Many of whom were still very successful. "In rural jurisdictions, your dealerships are pretty big employers. If you knock out four dealerships, the ripple effects of that are substantial," said Rep. Frank Kratovil (Democrat-Md.), who represents a largely rural Eastern Shore district and is co-sponsoring a bill that could force the auto companies to honor their contracts with the rejected dealerships. Sen. Kay Hagan (Democrat-N.C.) questioned how independent owned and operated businesses have any financial impact on automakers. "None of us can quite understand why they consider dealerships a drag when they are the ones that buy the cars, that take the financial risks. Many of the dealerships that are being closed are profitable."Too bad none of them thought about that before voting for this guy. Obama’s EPA has moved forward quickly on a host of new regulations, including limits on greenhouse gas emissions that farm that will raise costs on farmers. And hey, despite what Obama said about "going after the rich" it seems he forgot that people making less than his so-called 'rich' $250k still have to buy food also. Most of us cannot afford to just fly up to NYC for a dinner date. Or have some pizza dude come in from St Louis. And who do you think is gonna be paying for those additional costs when the farmers costs to grow corn and wheat, or raise cattle and hogs go up? Yep, you got it, the American taxpayer. Right there at the cashier at your local supermarket. And Obama hasn't even really got started too much yet with his cap and trade carbon offsets bullcrap. Wait till THAT starts hitting the farmers and ranchers. Think that steak is expensive now? You ain't seen nothing yet. Al Cross is director of the Institute for Rural Journalism and Community Issues and a veteran Kentucky political reporter; Cross noted that 80 percent of the electricity that rural cooperatives generate comes from coal-fired power plants — the same ones that would take a hit under the current legislation. "It will cost every North Carolinian somewhere in the neighborhood of $2,400 to $3,000 a year in just the electrical surcharge," said Sen. Richard Burr, a Republican who hails from a state Obama carried last year and would like to win again. "That’s a surcharge larger than their annual electric bill." Although to give some credit to the White House; A White House official said the administration is committed to alleviating any disproportionate burden on rural states. "The president has been clear that if there is a disparate impact on certain regions during the transition period, families and businesses should be compensated — the Waxman-Markey legislation includes provisions that do just that," the official said.On second thought, not so much 'credit'. Quote: families and businesses should be compensated. End quote. And exactly HOW is the White House gonna 'compensate' these farmers? With taxpayer money of course. Since the ONLY way the federal government gets money is through either printing it (and causing inflation because then the dollars in your wallet are worth less) either they print the money, or they tax the money. Either way, no matter how ya wanna look at it, we lose. Either we pay more at the store for the same items to cover the higher farmer costs; we pay more in taxes so the fed gov can cover the higher farmers costs; or the fed prints more money making ours worth less and it takes more of the money in or wallets to buy less at the store. Can anyone else say, we're SCREWED.Only nice thing about any of this, is that some of the Democrats are finally starting to wake up and smell the bullcrap Obama have been shoveling for the last 2 years. Tattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/ Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:34:51 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Dems-Revolt-2ed-Time/BLOG/397065/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-18T22:34:51Z MyFox Orlando  I gotta admit, at first, I was seriously pissed off my posting got hacked, again.But then I thought about it, and realized, I should take it as a compliment. After all, for my postings to get hacked, time and again, must mean, in very simple terms, someone is really running scared. The truth of what I post, must have the koolaid drinking liberals really chitting their britches.Since they know they cannot defeat the truth, they instead choose to hack and spam my postings. Thanks Walt for letting me know. I had not had time to check on things today.OK boys and girls, I am re-posting the same topic. I deleted the last one. Of course, it would be nice if the moderators there would take care of this hacking-spammer thing once and for all.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Seems it's finally starting to come around to maybe bite Obama in the azz. And this time, from the people in his own party. I've said all along, eventually some of the Democrats who voted for Obama would wake up and start thinking for themselves.  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23828.html Politico today was writing about how 'rural democrats' are getting more and more pizzed off with and at President Obama and his 'policies'. It seems that Obama's decisions on everything from greenhouse gases to car dealerships, are causing congressional Democrats from rural districts to start revolting against President Obama’s (fascist, IMO) agenda. "They don’t get rural America," said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. "They form their views of the world in large cities." Cardoza’s critique was aimed at Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency, but it echoes complaints rural-district Democrats have about a number of Obama administration decisions. In the House, rural Democrats threaten to marshal nearly 50 votes against the climate and energy bill backed by the administration. The conflict with rural Democrat burst into the open at the Capitol last week, when rural and moderate Democrat revolted against the decision to close roughly 3,400 General Motors and Chrysler Car Dealerships. Many of whom were still very successful. "In rural jurisdictions, your dealerships are pretty big employers. If you knock out four dealerships, the ripple effects of that are substantial," said Rep. Frank Kratovil (Democrat-Md.), who represents a largely rural Eastern Shore district and is co-sponsoring a bill that could force the auto companies to honor their contracts with the rejected dealerships. Sen. Kay Hagan (Democrat-N.C.) questioned how independent owned and operated businesses have any financial impact on automakers. "None of us can quite understand why they consider dealerships a drag when they are the ones that buy the cars, that take the financial risks. Many of the dealerships that are being closed are profitable."Too bad none of them thought about that before voting for this guy. Obama’s EPA has moved forward quickly on a host of new regulations, including limits on greenhouse gas emissions that farm that will raise costs on farmers. And hey, despite what Obama said about "going after the rich" it seems he forgot that people making less than his so-called 'rich' $250k still have to buy food also. Most of us cannot afford to just fly up to NYC for a dinner date. Or have some pizza dude come in from St Louis. And who do you think is gonna be paying for those additional costs when the farmers costs to grow corn and wheat, or raise cattle and hogs go up? Yep, you got it, the American taxpayer. Right there at the cashier at your local supermarket. And Obama hasn't even really got started too much yet with his cap and trade carbon offsets bullcrap. Wait till THAT starts hitting the farmers and ranchers. Think that steak is expensive now? You ain't seen nothing yet. Al Cross is director of the Institute for Rural Journalism and Community Issues and a veteran Kentucky political reporter; Cross noted that 80 percent of the electricity that rural cooperatives generate comes from coal-fired power plants — the same ones that would take a hit under the current legislation. "It will cost every North Carolinian somewhere in the neighborhood of $2,400 to $3,000 a year in just the electrical surcharge," said Sen. Richard Burr, a Republican who hails from a state Obama carried last year and would like to win again. "That’s a surcharge larger than their annual electric bill." Although to give some credit to the White House; A White House official said the administration is committed to alleviating any disproportionate burden on rural states. "The president has been clear that if there is a disparate impact on certain regions during the transition period, families and businesses should be compensated — the Waxman-Markey legislation includes provisions that do just that," the official said.On second thought, not so much 'credit'. Quote: families and businesses should be compensated. End quote. And exactly HOW is the White House gonna 'compensate' these farmers? With taxpayer money of course. Since the ONLY way the federal government gets money is through either printing it (and causing inflation because then the dollars in your wallet are worth less) either they print the money, or they tax the money. Either way, no matter how ya wanna look at it, we lose. Either we pay more at the store for the same items to cover the higher farmer costs; we pay more in taxes so the fed gov can cover the higher farmers costs; or the fed prints more money making ours worth less and it takes more of the money in or wallets to buy less at the store. Can anyone else say, we're SCREWED.Only nice thing about any of this, is that some of the Democrats are finally starting to wake up and smell the bullcrap Obama have been shoveling for the last 2 years. Tattoo Gypsy  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/ democrats, liberals, obama, president nonadult false Dems Revolt 2ed Time text blog democrats,liberals,obama,president 74 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 4 0 397065 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_My-Converting-To-Islam/BLOG/351767/72667.html OK, ok, Mr. Obama, I guess you win. All this nearly non-stop talk from you since you got elected about how Islam is a 'religion of peace' has finally convinced me to convert from Christianity to being a Muslim. Yep, ya talked me into it.Well, kinda sorta. I have just a few small concerns, call them conditions if you will, in order for me to convert to Islam.First; they really gotta quit treating their women like chitty second class citizens. Really. I mean if I convert that means the wife has to convert. And if I go around making her cover up head to toe she's gonna start throwing cast iron skillets in my direction. Judging from the looks of your wife, I'm guessing you probably know what that is like. Like most of us married folks know, when Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.And speaking of wives, I'm not sure any more about that whole multiple wives thing. It's bad enough when you got just one wife mad as hell at ya, imagine having a whole house full of wives mad at ya. Look, I've lived with 2 girlfriends at once, many a time. Even a wife and a girlfriend a few times. And from personal experience, I can tell ya, when they are BOTH pizzed at ya at the same time, it ain't no fun. So maybe ya might talk to the Muslims about the whole multiple wives thing if I'm gonna convert.Second, they need to quit it with these so-called 'daughter-honor-killings'. Besides the fact I do not think I could kill one of my daughters just because she was of legal age, living on her own, and having sex with her boyfriend; besides that, I'll refer back to the wife a couple paragraphs back..Except if I were to try 'honor-killing' one of our daughters, the wife, instead of throwing cast iron skillets in my direction, would probably start throwing lead, as in bullets, in my direction. So to convert to Islam, I think we need to do something about the whole daughter-honor-killing thing, don't you.By the way, while on that same subject, maybe ya might want to remind your Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Speaker of the House Pelosi, to stop covering their heads when they go visiting to those Muslim countries. By covering their heads, they are not being respectful to their Muslim hosts-- they are disgracing every woman who ever fought for equal rights over the past 100 years or so. Including your mother, and your grandmother, on your white side. (Oh, ya forgot ya had a 'white' side? Ya did a lot of reminding us during your running for the office of President, guess we don't hear it much nowadays)And speaking of equal rights; even though I don't float my boat that way (a reminder from the wife) I think in order for me to convert to Islam, they really need to stop killing people because they are gay.Now maybe gays are not totally accepted in this society, but we don’t allow them to be killed just for being gay. And if some Muslim were to kill my niece and her girlfriend because of being gay, remember the wife and the cast iron skillet, and her shotgun, well the sister would be right next to her and I'd have double trouble. So maybe you can convince the Muslims to easy up on the entire 'gay-killing' thing.Now I'll be the first to admit I didn't vote for your fascist-socialist self. Yeah, ok, I'll stop for now with the entire fascist-socialist thing. This is a serious subject and I should not confuse it, or you, with other serious subjects.But yeah, I didn't vote for you. But, I did vote, and so did around 100 million other free Americans. And we did it; we elected a black man President and changed leaders, all without violence. And in a few years, will do so again hopefully.So how about those freely elected democratic governments in the Muslim world? Oh, yeah, right, not too many of them around over there. Although it seems Iraq does have one now.So if I'm gonna convert to Islam, I really want to be able to vote for my leaders. Since they apparently seem to like you and believe in you, and since you like to prostrate yourself to them quite a bit, perhaps you could convince these Dictator type Muslim Countries to stop being run like feudal societies that most of the rest of the world gave up half a century ago.I know it is sometimes politically expedient for our President to deal with dictators. Back nearly 70 years ago we even had to make a deal with a mass murderer named Stalin to try and fight another mass murderer named Hitler.But I see no reason why in today’s world, where the great majority of people live in democracies, that we need to make nice-nice with dictators. Just one of the things the United States of America is not about, is accepting evil dictatorships or autocracies, Mr. Obama. This country does not believe in or accept, is controlling or dominating government control of people. Thought I should point that out to ya, cause ya just might want to keep that in mind for future reference.Another thing that would really help my conversion to Islam, is if you would get the Muslims to quit trying to tell us they really do care about the Palestinians and that the trouble in the Middle East is because of the Palestinian problems. That is about as fulla crap as the turd of a turbin on old Mohammed's head.Outside of giving some Palestinian suicide bombers family some money, the Arab world hasn't done a damned thing to help Palestinians for 60 odd years, and we all know that.Anyone who has read history knows the Palestinian problem did not start in 1967. It started in 1948 when 7 Arab nations attacked Israel and got their azzes royally kicked. The Palestinian people willingly relocated out of the Israeli territory. The original League of Nations (later the UN) did give the Palestinians their own land. Its called Jordan.Oh, Mr. Obama since you are so BIG on apologies, an apology for all those Christians and Jews kicked out of the Arab countries would be nice as well.While the Arab world has been really good on creating the lie about the Palestinians being kicked out of their land, the Arab world has also done an excellent job of covering up all those Jews and Christians they kicked out of Arab lands.OK, to be honest, they did not really kick them out. The Arabs made the offer for everyone to either convert to Islam or die. Guess the Jews and Christians figured leaving was better than converting or being killed.I really only have one more condition for me to convert to Islam. Since you are so big on Islam, the Muslim religion (now that is. Not when you were running for president, but hey, who's counting, right)But since you are now so big on the Muslim religion, the 'religion of peace as you have so eloquently put it on numerous occasions, my last condition for me to convert to Islam, is I would like to see a majority of all the Muslims actually start protesting the murders and atrocities performed in the name of Islam.You keep telling us that the people who do these murderous acts are only a small minority of Muslims. So I need to ask; where are all the protests, where are the books and articles denouncing the Muslim violence and murders against non-Muslims?Hell, where is the Islamic version of Bob Dylan or Pete Seeger, Peter Paul & Mary, Woody Guthrie or Joan Baez? (OK, yeah, I'm dating myself here, so what)If Islam is really a religion of peace as you so often claim, then would ya mind talking them into actually showing it.I know I have been waiting for it for quite some time now. But all the memories I have are of Muslims out partying after the Twin Towers came down, the Pentagon was attacked and Flight 93 went down in Penn, on 9-11-01. I don't recall seeing a single Muslim protesting the murders of 3000+ innocent Americans.Maybe you can march out at the head of the 'peaceful' Muslims and this 'Religion of Peace' you constantly like to refer to.President Obama, I think it is great that you want to accept Islam (still think it's funny you didn't tell us this a year ago though BEFORE ya got elected President), but I still think it's great you want to accept Islam. That you want all Americans to accept and even embrace the Muslim faith.But can I ask you a question?Would you ask me, or any of us, to accept Adolph Hitlers 3rd Reich Nazis? Or how about Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks, or Joseph Stalin's Communists, or how about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge?Any clue as to how many murders, killing, atrocities and evil mistreatments those 4 'leaders' are responsible for? Somewhere near 100 MILLION people. Roughly 1/3 of the entire current population of the United States.Personally, I do not see a whole lotta difference between the entire Muslim religion that can stand, cheer, dance and party the day of and days following 9-11-01 and people like Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and even Saddam Hussein.But I'll tell ya what Mr. Obama; you really need to quit bowing to Saudi Muslim Dictator-Kings, quit doing all this brown nosing to the Muslim world and people, quit apologizing for things you have no reason to and no right on behalf of the American people to apologize for, because no matter how you feel about this Country, no matter if I voted for you or not, currently you are the President of the United States of America.And it is about damned time that you started acting like it.Because all this apology bullcrap to the mass-murdering 'religion of peace' jerkoffs is getting pretty damned old.But hey, if you can convince your Muslim Friends to get with the program a bit, like outlined above, sure, I'll convert to Islam. On the same exact day I vote for you as President of the United States of America.Maybe around the second Sunday of next week.Tattoo Gypsy[image] OK, ok, Mr. Obama, I guess you win. All this nearly non-stop talk from you since you got elected about how Islam is a 'religion of peace' has finally convinced me to convert from Christianity to being a Muslim. Yep, ya talked me into it.Well, kinda sorta. I have just a few small concerns, call them conditions if you will, in order for me to convert to Islam.First; they really gotta quit treating their women like chitty second class citizens. Really. I mean if I convert that means the wife has to convert. And if I go around making her cover up head to toe she's gonna start throwing cast iron skillets in my direction. Judging from the looks of your wife, I'm guessing you probably know what that is like. Like most of us married folks know, when Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.And speaking of wives, I'm not sure any more about that whole multiple wives thing. It's bad enough when you got just one wife mad as hell at ya, imagine having a whole house full of wives mad at ya. Look, I've lived with 2 girlfriends at once, many a time. Even a wife and a girlfriend a few times. And from personal experience, I can tell ya, when they are BOTH pizzed at ya at the same time, it ain't no fun. So maybe ya might talk to the Muslims about the whole multiple wives thing if I'm gonna convert.Second, they need to quit it with these so-called 'daughter-honor-killings'. Besides the fact I do not think I could kill one of my daughters just because she was of legal age, living on her own, and having sex with her boyfriend; besides that, I'll refer back to the wife a couple paragraphs back..Except if I were to try 'honor-killing' one of our daughters, the wife, instead of throwing cast iron skillets in my direction, would probably start throwing lead, as in bullets, in my direction. So to convert to Islam, I think we need to do something about the whole daughter-honor-killing thing, don't you.By the way, while on that same subject, maybe ya might want to remind your Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Speaker of the House Pelosi, to stop covering their heads when they go visiting to those Muslim countries. By covering their heads, they are not being respectful to their Muslim hosts-- they are disgracing every woman who ever fought for equal rights over the past 100 years or so. Including your mother, and your grandmother, on your white side. (Oh, ya forgot ya had a 'white' side? Ya did a lot of reminding us during your running for the office of President, guess we don't hear it much nowadays)And speaking of equal rights; even though I don't float my boat that way (a reminder from the wife) I think in order for me to convert to Islam, they really need to stop killing people because they are gay.Now maybe gays are not totally accepted in this society, but we don’t allow them to be killed just for being gay. And if some Muslim were to kill my niece and her girlfriend because of being gay, remember the wife and the cast iron skillet, and her shotgun, well the sister would be right next to her and I'd have double trouble. So maybe you can convince the Muslims to easy up on the entire 'gay-killing' thing.Now I'll be the first to admit I didn't vote for your fascist-socialist self. Yeah, ok, I'll stop for now with the entire fascist-socialist thing. This is a serious subject and I should not confuse it, or you, with other serious subjects.But yeah, I didn't vote for you. But, I did vote, and so did around 100 million other free Americans. And we did it; we elected a black man President and changed leaders, all without violence. And in a few years, will do so again hopefully.So how about those freely elected democratic governments in the Muslim world? Oh, yeah, right, not too many of them around over there. Although it seems Iraq does have one now.So if I'm gonna convert to Islam, I really want to be able to vote for my leaders. Since they apparently seem to like you and believe in you, and since you like to prostrate yourself to them quite a bit, perhaps you could convince these Dictator type Muslim Countries to stop being run like feudal societies that most of the rest of the world gave up half a century ago.I know it is sometimes politically expedient for our President to deal with dictators. Back nearly 70 years ago we even had to make a deal with a mass murderer named Stalin to try and fight another mass murderer named Hitler.But I see no reason why in today’s world, where the great majority of people live in democracies, that we need to make nice-nice with dictators. Just one of the things the United States of America is not about, is accepting evil dictatorships or autocracies, Mr. Obama. This country does not believe in or accept, is controlling or dominating government control of people. Thought I should point that out to ya, cause ya just might want to keep that in mind for future reference.Another thing that would really help my conversion to Islam, is if you would get the Muslims to quit trying to tell us they really do care about the Palestinians and that the trouble in the Middle East is because of the Palestinian problems. That is about as fulla crap as the turd of a turbin on old Mohammed's head.Outside of giving some Palestinian suicide bombers family some money, the Arab world hasn't done a damned thing to help Palestinians for 60 odd years, and we all know that.Anyone who has read history knows the Palestinian problem did not start in 1967. It started in 1948 when 7 Arab nations attacked Israel and got their azzes royally kicked. The Palestinian people willingly relocated out of the Israeli territory. The original League of Nations (later the UN) did give the Palestinians their own land. Its called Jordan.Oh, Mr. Obama since you are so BIG on apologies, an apology for all those Christians and Jews kicked out of the Arab countries would be nice as well.While the Arab world has been really good on creating the lie about the Palestinians being kicked out of their land, the Arab world has also done an excellent job of covering up all those Jews and Christians they kicked out of Arab lands.OK, to be honest, they did not really kick them out. The Arabs made the offer for everyone to either convert to Islam or die. Guess the Jews and Christians figured leaving was better than converting or being killed.I really only have one more condition for me to convert to Islam. Since you are so big on Islam, the Muslim religion (now that is. Not when you were running for president, but hey, who's counting, right)But since you are now so big on the Muslim religion, the 'religion of peace as you have so eloquently put it on numerous occasions, my last condition for me to convert to Islam, is I would like to see a majority of all the Muslims actually start protesting the murders and atrocities performed in the name of Islam.You keep telling us that the people who do these murderous acts are only a small minority of Muslims. So I need to ask; where are all the protests, where are the books and articles denouncing the Muslim violence and murders against non-Muslims?Hell, where is the Islamic version of Bob Dylan or Pete Seeger, Peter Paul & Mary, Woody Guthrie or Joan Baez? (OK, yeah, I'm dating myself here, so what)If Islam is really a religion of peace as you so often claim, then would ya mind talking them into actually showing it.I know I have been waiting for it for quite some time now. But all the memories I have are of Muslims out partying after the Twin Towers came down, the Pentagon was attacked and Flight 93 went down in Penn, on 9-11-01. I don't recall seeing a single Muslim protesting the murders of 3000+ innocent Americans.Maybe you can march out at the head of the 'peaceful' Muslims and this 'Religion of Peace' you constantly like to refer to.President Obama, I think it is great that you want to accept Islam (still think it's funny you didn't tell us this a year ago though BEFORE ya got elected President), but I still think it's great you want to accept Islam. That you want all Americans to accept and even embrace the Muslim faith.But can I ask you a question?Would you ask me, or any of us, to accept Adolph Hitlers 3rd Reich Nazis? Or how about Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks, or Joseph Stalin's Communists, or how about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge?Any clue as to how many murders, killing, atrocities and evil mistreatments those 4 'leaders' are responsible for? Somewhere near 100 MILLION people. Roughly 1/3 of the entire current population of the United States.Personally, I do not see a whole lotta difference between the entire Muslim religion that can stand, cheer, dance and party the day of and days following 9-11-01 and people like Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and even Saddam Hussein.But I'll tell ya what Mr. Obama; you really need to quit bowing to Saudi Muslim Dictator-Kings, quit doing all this brown nosing to the Muslim world and people, quit apologizing for things you have no reason to and no right on behalf of the American people to apologize for, because no matter how you feel about this Country, no matter if I voted for you or not, currently you are the President of the United States of America.And it is about damned time that you started acting like it.Because all this apology bullcrap to the mass-murdering 'religion of peace' jerkoffs is getting pretty damned old.But hey, if you can convince your Muslim Friends to get with the program a bit, like outlined above, sure, I'll convert to Islam. On the same exact day I vote for you as President of the United States of America.Maybe around the second Sunday of next week.Tattoo Gypsy[image] Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:09:02 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_My-Converting-To-Islam/BLOG/351767/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-16T14:09:02Z Politics MyFox Orlando OK, ok, Mr. Obama, I guess you win. All this nearly non-stop talk from you since you got elected about how Islam is a 'religion of peace' has finally convinced me to convert from Christianity to being a Muslim. Yep, ya talked me into it.Well, kinda sorta. I have just a few small concerns, call them conditions if you will, in order for me to convert to Islam.First; they really gotta quit treating their women like chitty second class citizens. Really. I mean if I convert that means the wife has to convert. And if I go around making her cover up head to toe she's gonna start throwing cast iron skillets in my direction. Judging from the looks of your wife, I'm guessing you probably know what that is like. Like most of us married folks know, when Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.And speaking of wives, I'm not sure any more about that whole multiple wives thing. It's bad enough when you got just one wife mad as hell at ya, imagine having a whole house full of wives mad at ya. Look, I've lived with 2 girlfriends at once, many a time. Even a wife and a girlfriend a few times. And from personal experience, I can tell ya, when they are BOTH pizzed at ya at the same time, it ain't no fun. So maybe ya might talk to the Muslims about the whole multiple wives thing if I'm gonna convert.Second, they need to quit it with these so-called 'daughter-honor-killings'. Besides the fact I do not think I could kill one of my daughters just because she was of legal age, living on her own, and having sex with her boyfriend; besides that, I'll refer back to the wife a couple paragraphs back..Except if I were to try 'honor-killing' one of our daughters, the wife, instead of throwing cast iron skillets in my direction, would probably start throwing lead, as in bullets, in my direction. So to convert to Islam, I think we need to do something about the whole daughter-honor-killing thing, don't you.By the way, while on that same subject, maybe ya might want to remind your Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Speaker of the House Pelosi, to stop covering their heads when they go visiting to those Muslim countries. By covering their heads, they are not being respectful to their Muslim hosts-- they are disgracing every woman who ever fought for equal rights over the past 100 years or so. Including your mother, and your grandmother, on your white side. (Oh, ya forgot ya had a 'white' side? Ya did a lot of reminding us during your running for the office of President, guess we don't hear it much nowadays)And speaking of equal rights; even though I don't float my boat that way (a reminder from the wife) I think in order for me to convert to Islam, they really need to stop killing people because they are gay.Now maybe gays are not totally accepted in this society, but we don’t allow them to be killed just for being gay. And if some Muslim were to kill my niece and her girlfriend because of being gay, remember the wife and the cast iron skillet, and her shotgun, well the sister would be right next to her and I'd have double trouble. So maybe you can convince the Muslims to easy up on the entire 'gay-killing' thing.Now I'll be the first to admit I didn't vote for your fascist-socialist self. Yeah, ok, I'll stop for now with the entire fascist-socialist thing. This is a serious subject and I should not confuse it, or you, with other serious subjects.But yeah, I didn't vote for you. But, I did vote, and so did around 100 million other free Americans. And we did it; we elected a black man President and changed leaders, all without violence. And in a few years, will do so again hopefully.So how about those freely elected democratic governments in the Muslim world? Oh, yeah, right, not too many of them around over there. Although it seems Iraq does have one now.So if I'm gonna convert to Islam, I really want to be able to vote for my leaders. Since they apparently seem to like you and believe in you, and since you like to prostrate yourself to them quite a bit, perhaps you could convince these Dictator type Muslim Countries to stop being run like feudal societies that most of the rest of the world gave up half a century ago.I know it is sometimes politically expedient for our President to deal with dictators. Back nearly 70 years ago we even had to make a deal with a mass murderer named Stalin to try and fight another mass murderer named Hitler.But I see no reason why in today’s world, where the great majority of people live in democracies, that we need to make nice-nice with dictators. Just one of the things the United States of America is not about, is accepting evil dictatorships or autocracies, Mr. Obama. This country does not believe in or accept, is controlling or dominating government control of people. Thought I should point that out to ya, cause ya just might want to keep that in mind for future reference.Another thing that would really help my conversion to Islam, is if you would get the Muslims to quit trying to tell us they really do care about the Palestinians and that the trouble in the Middle East is because of the Palestinian problems. That is about as fulla crap as the turd of a turbin on old Mohammed's head.Outside of giving some Palestinian suicide bombers family some money, the Arab world hasn't done a damned thing to help Palestinians for 60 odd years, and we all know that.Anyone who has read history knows the Palestinian problem did not start in 1967. It started in 1948 when 7 Arab nations attacked Israel and got their azzes royally kicked. The Palestinian people willingly relocated out of the Israeli territory. The original League of Nations (later the UN) did give the Palestinians their own land. Its called Jordan.Oh, Mr. Obama since you are so BIG on apologies, an apology for all those Christians and Jews kicked out of the Arab countries would be nice as well.While the Arab world has been really good on creating the lie about the Palestinians being kicked out of their land, the Arab world has also done an excellent job of covering up all those Jews and Christians they kicked out of Arab lands.OK, to be honest, they did not really kick them out. The Arabs made the offer for everyone to either convert to Islam or die. Guess the Jews and Christians figured leaving was better than converting or being killed.I really only have one more condition for me to convert to Islam. Since you are so big on Islam, the Muslim religion (now that is. Not when you were running for president, but hey, who's counting, right)But since you are now so big on the Muslim religion, the 'religion of peace as you have so eloquently put it on numerous occasions, my last condition for me to convert to Islam, is I would like to see a majority of all the Muslims actually start protesting the murders and atrocities performed in the name of Islam.You keep telling us that the people who do these murderous acts are only a small minority of Muslims. So I need to ask; where are all the protests, where are the books and articles denouncing the Muslim violence and murders against non-Muslims?Hell, where is the Islamic version of Bob Dylan or Pete Seeger, Peter Paul & Mary, Woody Guthrie or Joan Baez? (OK, yeah, I'm dating myself here, so what)If Islam is really a religion of peace as you so often claim, then would ya mind talking them into actually showing it.I know I have been waiting for it for quite some time now. But all the memories I have are of Muslims out partying after the Twin Towers came down, the Pentagon was attacked and Flight 93 went down in Penn, on 9-11-01. I don't recall seeing a single Muslim protesting the murders of 3000+ innocent Americans.Maybe you can march out at the head of the 'peaceful' Muslims and this 'Religion of Peace' you constantly like to refer to.President Obama, I think it is great that you want to accept Islam (still think it's funny you didn't tell us this a year ago though BEFORE ya got elected President), but I still think it's great you want to accept Islam. That you want all Americans to accept and even embrace the Muslim faith.But can I ask you a question?Would you ask me, or any of us, to accept Adolph Hitlers 3rd Reich Nazis? Or how about Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks, or Joseph Stalin's Communists, or how about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge?Any clue as to how many murders, killing, atrocities and evil mistreatments those 4 'leaders' are responsible for? Somewhere near 100 MILLION people. Roughly 1/3 of the entire current population of the United States.Personally, I do not see a whole lotta difference between the entire Muslim religion that can stand, cheer, dance and party the day of and days following 9-11-01 and people like Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and even Saddam Hussein.But I'll tell ya what Mr. Obama; you really need to quit bowing to Saudi Muslim Dictator-Kings, quit doing all this brown nosing to the Muslim world and people, quit apologizing for things you have no reason to and no right on behalf of the American people to apologize for, because no matter how you feel about this Country, no matter if I voted for you or not, currently you are the President of the United States of America.And it is about damned time that you started acting like it.Because all this apology bullcrap to the mass-murdering 'religion of peace' jerkoffs is getting pretty damned old.But hey, if you can convince your Muslim Friends to get with the program a bit, like outlined above, sure, I'll convert to Islam. On the same exact day I vote for you as President of the United States of America.Maybe around the second Sunday of next week.Tattoo Gypsy[image] converting, islam, muslim, obama, politics, president nonadult false My Converting To Islam text blog converting,islam,muslim,obama,politics,president 597 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 6 0 351767 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Lou-Dobbs-On-Obama-Gun-Control/BLOG/350921/72667.html Now I see even CNN's own pretty liberal Lou Dobbs is waking up to what is going on with Obama and the 2nd Amendment.Even Dobbs seems to feel Obama and his chief law enforcement officer Holder really do want major gun control.Dobbs-Obama videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9X2VbhSH9o As a friend once sent me:I don't have a gun to kill people. I have a gun to keep from being killed. I don't have a gun to scare people. I have a gun because some times this world can be a scary place. I don't have a gun because I'm paranoid. I have a gun because there are real threats in the world. I don't have a gun because I'm evil. I have a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world. I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. I have a gun because I understand the limitations of government. I don't have a gun because I'm angry. I have a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared. I don't have a gun because I want to shoot someone. I have a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon. I don't have a gun because I'm a cowboy. I have a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy. I don't have a gun to make me feel like a man. I have a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love. I don't have a gun because I feel inadequate. I have a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate. I don't have a gun because I love it. I have a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess. Tattoo Gypsy   [image]LinkLink Now I see even CNN's own pretty liberal Lou Dobbs is waking up to what is going on with Obama and the 2nd Amendment.Even Dobbs seems to feel Obama and his chief law enforcement officer Holder really do want major gun control.Dobbs-Obama videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9X2VbhSH9o As a friend once sent me:I don't have a gun to kill people. I have a gun to keep from being killed. I don't have a gun to scare people. I have a gun because some times this world can be a scary place. I don't have a gun because I'm paranoid. I have a gun because there are real threats in the world. I don't have a gun because I'm evil. I have a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world. I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. I have a gun because I understand the limitations of government. I don't have a gun because I'm angry. I have a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared. I don't have a gun because I want to shoot someone. I have a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon. I don't have a gun because I'm a cowboy. I have a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy. I don't have a gun to make me feel like a man. I have a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love. I don't have a gun because I feel inadequate. I have a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate. I don't have a gun because I love it. I have a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess. Tattoo Gypsy   [image]LinkLink Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:46:07 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Lou-Dobbs-On-Obama-Gun-Control/BLOG/350921/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-15T23:46:07Z Politics MyFox Orlando Now I see even CNN's own pretty liberal Lou Dobbs is waking up to what is going on with Obama and the 2nd Amendment.Even Dobbs seems to feel Obama and his chief law enforcement officer Holder really do want major gun control.Dobbs-Obama videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9X2VbhSH9o As a friend once sent me:I don't have a gun to kill people. I have a gun to keep from being killed. I don't have a gun to scare people. I have a gun because some times this world can be a scary place. I don't have a gun because I'm paranoid. I have a gun because there are real threats in the world. I don't have a gun because I'm evil. I have a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world. I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. I have a gun because I understand the limitations of government. I don't have a gun because I'm angry. I have a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared. I don't have a gun because I want to shoot someone. I have a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon. I don't have a gun because I'm a cowboy. I have a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy. I don't have a gun to make me feel like a man. I have a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love. I don't have a gun because I feel inadequate. I have a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate. I don't have a gun because I love it. I have a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess. Tattoo Gypsy   [image]LinkLink 2nd, amendment, control, gun, holder, obama, politics nonadult false Lou Dobbs On Obama Gun Control text blog 2nd,amendment,control,gun,holder,obama,politics 309 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 7 2 350921 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Socialism-or-Fascism/BLOG/347280/72667.html  I deleated the old post and reposted this due to some moron spammer who tried to take over the thread, named 'kill_who'. Sorry for the trouble. Tattoo GypsyOriginal Post:For all this talk by some people who claim 'socialism' is not the 'agenda' or 'ultimate goal' of Barack Hussein Obama, it seems odd that different media all seem to be saying just the opposite.Take for example the covers of National Review ("OUR SOCIALIST FUTURE"), The Nation ("REINVENTING CAPITALISM, REIMAGINING SOCIALISM"), and Newsweek ("WE ARE ALL SOCIALISTS NOW") have--respectively--lamented, heralded, and observed the coming rise of socialism.But then, I will need to grudgingly admit, perhaps some of the people on here who are so adamant that we are not headed down the path of 'Obama Socialism', just may be correct.(By the way, my thanks to LU & SO for their help in writing parts of this.)Socialist states have included the USSR, Communist China, socialist Sweden, socialist England, Cuba, North Korea, and a handful of lesser regimes in Eastern Europe, East Africa, and Southeast Asia.Some socialist regimes (like Sweden's and England's) were elected democratically. Others, like the USSR's and China's were the result of violent revolutions.Still others were the product of either military coup (Cuba, Ethiopia, Vietnam) or foreign invasion (the Eastern Bloc).The trait common to all of these is provided by the definition of socialism: "a theory or system of social organization which advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means or production, capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole" (American College Dictionary).And with looking at the actual definition of 'socialism', no, perhaps some of these people are correct. Obama is not so much interested in pure 'socialism'.Instead, what I have come to see, is defined as "A governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, banking, etc.)" (American College Dictionary).THAT is not 'socialism'. That actually is the American College Dictionary definition of FASCISM.Admittedly there are numerous differences between socialism and fascism, the most obvious of which concerns their view of private property. Socialism abolishes the institution entirely; fascism does not.For example, in the old USSR, Russians had to wait years for their names to come up on a list to receive a car from the government.But at the same time, most people are familiar with the existence of wealthy property owners like Oskar Schindler who lived under the Nazi regime.Now we can put socialism and fascism on the table and stare at them all we like, and all a lot of the 'he's-not-socialist-Obamanites' see will be the differences between socialism and fascism.Socialism and Fascism do differ from each other, but only in the way in which say a Harley V-Twin and a Honda V-Twin differ from each other: in degree, but not in kind.Socialism and Fascism are each forms of STATISM. That being forms of government in which the government is given complete or extensive control over the lives of its citizens.The actual differences between Socialism and Fascism, are really not that important.Sure, it's true that Fascist systems permitted property ownership, while Socialist ones did not.However, fascist "property rights" were only nominal, in name only: A businessman (such as Oskar Schindler) would retain legal title to his goods, but he would not retain any control over them.Because he was not politically free, the government could order him to use his property as the government so desired. Such as using Schindler's 'property' to produce war implements, or in GM's case, specific cars no one really wants.Just as there can be no split between mind and body, there can be no split between political freedom and economic freedom. Man cannot exist without a mind and a body, and he cannot be free if someone else controls either.It is true that the Nazis and socialists were rivals for power in Weimar Germany. On account of their similar political ideologies, however, this rivalry collapsed in the face of the defeat of their common enemy: capitalism.To quote historical fact from Ayn Rand:"In the German election of 1933, the Communist Party was ordered by its leaders to vote for the Nazis -- with the explanation that they could later fight the Nazis for power, but first they had to help destroy their common enemy: capitalism and its parliamentary form of government"Extremism,' or The Art of Smearing", Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, pg. 180To the extent that the Socialist and Fascists groups did clash in Weimar Germany, the clashes were not over matters of principle. They were of the variety of conflict seen most often in inner city America, where rival gangs fight over supposed 'turf', over such trivial difference as the color of clothing worn by the other gang.In the end, whoever happens to win is a pointless consideration. The result is the same: blood in the streets.As for the conflict between the Nazis Fascists and the USSR Socialists, keep in mind the Hitler-Stalin pact of 1937, in which the two powers agreed to divide up Eastern Europe together.Hitler and Stalin apparently had no problem in principle with working together to exterminate freedom in peaceful democratic nations.Quotations from various infamous Nazis and other fascists:We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and for the good of all. Therefore, we demand:... an end to the power of the financial interests.We demand profit sharing in big business.We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.We demand... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state and municipal governments.In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents...The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth.[We] combat the... materialistic spirit withn and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good .(Nazi party platform adopted at Munich, February 24, 1920; Der Nationalsozialismus Dokumente1933-1945, edited by Walther Hofer, Frankfurt am Main: Fischer Bucherei, 1957, pp. 29-31).To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.(Nazi head of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels; In Erich Fromm, Escape from Freedom (New York: Farrar, 1941), pg. 233.)I have learned a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit. The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and penpushers have timidly begun... I had only to develop logically what Social Democracy repeatedly failed in because of its attempt to realize its evolution within the framework of democracy. National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with the democratic order.(Hitler to Rauschning, The Voice of Destruction, pg. 186).It should be obvious that the philosophical difference between the fascists and the socialists was and is pretty minor, if it exists at all.Both Socialism and Fascism reject reason, affirm the basics of altruism, and uphold some form of collectivism.The ultimate end result of either of these two 'isms' is the destruction of freedom, which is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany and in Soviet Russia.And eventually, the way it seems to be heading, the end of freedom here in the United States.Tattoo Gypsy[image]  I deleated the old post and reposted this due to some moron spammer who tried to take over the thread, named 'kill_who'. Sorry for the trouble. Tattoo GypsyOriginal Post:For all this talk by some people who claim 'socialism' is not the 'agenda' or 'ultimate goal' of Barack Hussein Obama, it seems odd that different media all seem to be saying just the opposite.Take for example the covers of National Review ("OUR SOCIALIST FUTURE"), The Nation ("REINVENTING CAPITALISM, REIMAGINING SOCIALISM"), and Newsweek ("WE ARE ALL SOCIALISTS NOW") have--respectively--lamented, heralded, and observed the coming rise of socialism.But then, I will need to grudgingly admit, perhaps some of the people on here who are so adamant that we are not headed down the path of 'Obama Socialism', just may be correct.(By the way, my thanks to LU & SO for their help in writing parts of this.)Socialist states have included the USSR, Communist China, socialist Sweden, socialist England, Cuba, North Korea, and a handful of lesser regimes in Eastern Europe, East Africa, and Southeast Asia.Some socialist regimes (like Sweden's and England's) were elected democratically. Others, like the USSR's and China's were the result of violent revolutions.Still others were the product of either military coup (Cuba, Ethiopia, Vietnam) or foreign invasion (the Eastern Bloc).The trait common to all of these is provided by the definition of socialism: "a theory or system of social organization which advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means or production, capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole" (American College Dictionary).And with looking at the actual definition of 'socialism', no, perhaps some of these people are correct. Obama is not so much interested in pure 'socialism'.Instead, what I have come to see, is defined as "A governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, banking, etc.)" (American College Dictionary).THAT is not 'socialism'. That actually is the American College Dictionary definition of FASCISM.Admittedly there are numerous differences between socialism and fascism, the most obvious of which concerns their view of private property. Socialism abolishes the institution entirely; fascism does not.For example, in the old USSR, Russians had to wait years for their names to come up on a list to receive a car from the government.But at the same time, most people are familiar with the existence of wealthy property owners like Oskar Schindler who lived under the Nazi regime.Now we can put socialism and fascism on the table and stare at them all we like, and all a lot of the 'he's-not-socialist-Obamanites' see will be the differences between socialism and fascism.Socialism and Fascism do differ from each other, but only in the way in which say a Harley V-Twin and a Honda V-Twin differ from each other: in degree, but not in kind.Socialism and Fascism are each forms of STATISM. That being forms of government in which the government is given complete or extensive control over the lives of its citizens.The actual differences between Socialism and Fascism, are really not that important.Sure, it's true that Fascist systems permitted property ownership, while Socialist ones did not.However, fascist "property rights" were only nominal, in name only: A businessman (such as Oskar Schindler) would retain legal title to his goods, but he would not retain any control over them.Because he was not politically free, the government could order him to use his property as the government so desired. Such as using Schindler's 'property' to produce war implements, or in GM's case, specific cars no one really wants.Just as there can be no split between mind and body, there can be no split between political freedom and economic freedom. Man cannot exist without a mind and a body, and he cannot be free if someone else controls either.It is true that the Nazis and socialists were rivals for power in Weimar Germany. On account of their similar political ideologies, however, this rivalry collapsed in the face of the defeat of their common enemy: capitalism.To quote historical fact from Ayn Rand:"In the German election of 1933, the Communist Party was ordered by its leaders to vote for the Nazis -- with the explanation that they could later fight the Nazis for power, but first they had to help destroy their common enemy: capitalism and its parliamentary form of government"Extremism,' or The Art of Smearing", Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, pg. 180To the extent that the Socialist and Fascists groups did clash in Weimar Germany, the clashes were not over matters of principle. They were of the variety of conflict seen most often in inner city America, where rival gangs fight over supposed 'turf', over such trivial difference as the color of clothing worn by the other gang.In the end, whoever happens to win is a pointless consideration. The result is the same: blood in the streets.As for the conflict between the Nazis Fascists and the USSR Socialists, keep in mind the Hitler-Stalin pact of 1937, in which the two powers agreed to divide up Eastern Europe together.Hitler and Stalin apparently had no problem in principle with working together to exterminate freedom in peaceful democratic nations.Quotations from various infamous Nazis and other fascists:We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and for the good of all. Therefore, we demand:... an end to the power of the financial interests.We demand profit sharing in big business.We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.We demand... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state and municipal governments.In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents...The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth.[We] combat the... materialistic spirit withn and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good .(Nazi party platform adopted at Munich, February 24, 1920; Der Nationalsozialismus Dokumente1933-1945, edited by Walther Hofer, Frankfurt am Main: Fischer Bucherei, 1957, pp. 29-31).To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.(Nazi head of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels; In Erich Fromm, Escape from Freedom (New York: Farrar, 1941), pg. 233.)I have learned a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit. The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and penpushers have timidly begun... I had only to develop logically what Social Democracy repeatedly failed in because of its attempt to realize its evolution within the framework of democracy. National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with the democratic order.(Hitler to Rauschning, The Voice of Destruction, pg. 186).It should be obvious that the philosophical difference between the fascists and the socialists was and is pretty minor, if it exists at all.Both Socialism and Fascism reject reason, affirm the basics of altruism, and uphold some form of collectivism.The ultimate end result of either of these two 'isms' is the destruction of freedom, which is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany and in Soviet Russia.And eventually, the way it seems to be heading, the end of freedom here in the United States.Tattoo Gypsy[image] Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:16:38 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Socialism-or-Fascism/BLOG/347280/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-13T14:16:38Z Politics MyFox Orlando  I deleated the old post and reposted this due to some moron spammer who tried to take over the thread, named 'kill_who'. Sorry for the trouble. Tattoo GypsyOriginal Post:For all this talk by some people who claim 'socialism' is not the 'agenda' or 'ultimate goal' of Barack Hussein Obama, it seems odd that different media all seem to be saying just the opposite.Take for example the covers of National Review ("OUR SOCIALIST FUTURE"), The Nation ("REINVENTING CAPITALISM, REIMAGINING SOCIALISM"), and Newsweek ("WE ARE ALL SOCIALISTS NOW") have--respectively--lamented, heralded, and observed the coming rise of socialism.But then, I will need to grudgingly admit, perhaps some of the people on here who are so adamant that we are not headed down the path of 'Obama Socialism', just may be correct.(By the way, my thanks to LU & SO for their help in writing parts of this.)Socialist states have included the USSR, Communist China, socialist Sweden, socialist England, Cuba, North Korea, and a handful of lesser regimes in Eastern Europe, East Africa, and Southeast Asia.Some socialist regimes (like Sweden's and England's) were elected democratically. Others, like the USSR's and China's were the result of violent revolutions.Still others were the product of either military coup (Cuba, Ethiopia, Vietnam) or foreign invasion (the Eastern Bloc).The trait common to all of these is provided by the definition of socialism: "a theory or system of social organization which advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means or production, capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole" (American College Dictionary).And with looking at the actual definition of 'socialism', no, perhaps some of these people are correct. Obama is not so much interested in pure 'socialism'.Instead, what I have come to see, is defined as "A governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, banking, etc.)" (American College Dictionary).THAT is not 'socialism'. That actually is the American College Dictionary definition of FASCISM.Admittedly there are numerous differences between socialism and fascism, the most obvious of which concerns their view of private property. Socialism abolishes the institution entirely; fascism does not.For example, in the old USSR, Russians had to wait years for their names to come up on a list to receive a car from the government.But at the same time, most people are familiar with the existence of wealthy property owners like Oskar Schindler who lived under the Nazi regime.Now we can put socialism and fascism on the table and stare at them all we like, and all a lot of the 'he's-not-socialist-Obamanites' see will be the differences between socialism and fascism.Socialism and Fascism do differ from each other, but only in the way in which say a Harley V-Twin and a Honda V-Twin differ from each other: in degree, but not in kind.Socialism and Fascism are each forms of STATISM. That being forms of government in which the government is given complete or extensive control over the lives of its citizens.The actual differences between Socialism and Fascism, are really not that important.Sure, it's true that Fascist systems permitted property ownership, while Socialist ones did not.However, fascist "property rights" were only nominal, in name only: A businessman (such as Oskar Schindler) would retain legal title to his goods, but he would not retain any control over them.Because he was not politically free, the government could order him to use his property as the government so desired. Such as using Schindler's 'property' to produce war implements, or in GM's case, specific cars no one really wants.Just as there can be no split between mind and body, there can be no split between political freedom and economic freedom. Man cannot exist without a mind and a body, and he cannot be free if someone else controls either.It is true that the Nazis and socialists were rivals for power in Weimar Germany. On account of their similar political ideologies, however, this rivalry collapsed in the face of the defeat of their common enemy: capitalism.To quote historical fact from Ayn Rand:"In the German election of 1933, the Communist Party was ordered by its leaders to vote for the Nazis -- with the explanation that they could later fight the Nazis for power, but first they had to help destroy their common enemy: capitalism and its parliamentary form of government"Extremism,' or The Art of Smearing", Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, pg. 180To the extent that the Socialist and Fascists groups did clash in Weimar Germany, the clashes were not over matters of principle. They were of the variety of conflict seen most often in inner city America, where rival gangs fight over supposed 'turf', over such trivial difference as the color of clothing worn by the other gang.In the end, whoever happens to win is a pointless consideration. The result is the same: blood in the streets.As for the conflict between the Nazis Fascists and the USSR Socialists, keep in mind the Hitler-Stalin pact of 1937, in which the two powers agreed to divide up Eastern Europe together.Hitler and Stalin apparently had no problem in principle with working together to exterminate freedom in peaceful democratic nations.Quotations from various infamous Nazis and other fascists:We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and for the good of all. Therefore, we demand:... an end to the power of the financial interests.We demand profit sharing in big business.We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.We demand... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state and municipal governments.In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents...The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth.[We] combat the... materialistic spirit withn and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good .(Nazi party platform adopted at Munich, February 24, 1920; Der Nationalsozialismus Dokumente1933-1945, edited by Walther Hofer, Frankfurt am Main: Fischer Bucherei, 1957, pp. 29-31).To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.(Nazi head of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels; In Erich Fromm, Escape from Freedom (New York: Farrar, 1941), pg. 233.)I have learned a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit. The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and penpushers have timidly begun... I had only to develop logically what Social Democracy repeatedly failed in because of its attempt to realize its evolution within the framework of democracy. National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with the democratic order.(Hitler to Rauschning, The Voice of Destruction, pg. 186).It should be obvious that the philosophical difference between the fascists and the socialists was and is pretty minor, if it exists at all.Both Socialism and Fascism reject reason, affirm the basics of altruism, and uphold some form of collectivism.The ultimate end result of either of these two 'isms' is the destruction of freedom, which is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany and in Soviet Russia.And eventually, the way it seems to be heading, the end of freedom here in the United States.Tattoo Gypsy[image] fascism, obama, politics, president, socialism nonadult false Socialism or Fascism? text blog fascism,obama,politics,president,socialism 293 0 0.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 1 0 347280 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Conservative-vs-Liberal-How-It-Began/BLOG/342527/72667.html Conservative vs. Liberal how it began.Simple Facts of Life The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. Beer and the wheel are the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:1. Liberals2. Conservatives. Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented,they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements includethe domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that the conservatives provided. Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth; the elephant. Liberals came to be symbolized symbolized by the jackass. A few modern liberals like Mexican light beer (with lime added), but most prefer a chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc, with passion fruit and kiwi aromas which are marked by grassy notes, then rounded out on the mid palate by peach flavors. Crisp and refreshing, with a hint of chalky minerality on the finish; or Perrier bottled water. They eat raw fish but generally dislike beef. (Got this part from -gagg- from a former liberal son-in-law before the one daughter woke up and saw what he really was like and dumper is worthless azz)Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, Ivy League professors, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals, even rent-a-cops who couldn't make the real thing. Liberals invented the designated-hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink Budweiser, Lone Star, Beck's Dark, Harpoon IPA or Yuengling Lager.They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, craftsmen, firemen, tradesmen, medical doctors, Harley Riders, police officers - especially Motorcycle Cops, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed, the hard work was done and created a business of trying to get more for nothing. Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above and if they do so, will generally will respond with insults and nonsense. A Conservative will simply laugh and realize the absolute truth of this history. Semper Fi Tattoo Gypsy[image]LinkLinkNot been on much, been kinda busy. May need to hire someone to handle the power cleaning business I also run. If anyone out there is experienced with p/c, drop me a line. Conservative vs. Liberal how it began.Simple Facts of Life The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. Beer and the wheel are the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:1. Liberals2. Conservatives. Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented,they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements includethe domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that the conservatives provided. Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth; the elephant. Liberals came to be symbolized symbolized by the jackass. A few modern liberals like Mexican light beer (with lime added), but most prefer a chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc, with passion fruit and kiwi aromas which are marked by grassy notes, then rounded out on the mid palate by peach flavors. Crisp and refreshing, with a hint of chalky minerality on the finish; or Perrier bottled water. They eat raw fish but generally dislike beef. (Got this part from -gagg- from a former liberal son-in-law before the one daughter woke up and saw what he really was like and dumper is worthless azz)Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, Ivy League professors, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals, even rent-a-cops who couldn't make the real thing. Liberals invented the designated-hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink Budweiser, Lone Star, Beck's Dark, Harpoon IPA or Yuengling Lager.They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, craftsmen, firemen, tradesmen, medical doctors, Harley Riders, police officers - especially Motorcycle Cops, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed, the hard work was done and created a business of trying to get more for nothing. Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above and if they do so, will generally will respond with insults and nonsense. A Conservative will simply laugh and realize the absolute truth of this history. Semper Fi Tattoo Gypsy[image]LinkLinkNot been on much, been kinda busy. May need to hire someone to handle the power cleaning business I also run. If anyone out there is experienced with p/c, drop me a line. Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:12:22 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Conservative-vs-Liberal-How-It-Began/BLOG/342527/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-10T16:12:22Z Politics MyFox Orlando Conservative vs. Liberal how it began.Simple Facts of Life The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. Beer and the wheel are the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:1. Liberals2. Conservatives. Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented,they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements includethe domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that the conservatives provided. Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth; the elephant. Liberals came to be symbolized symbolized by the jackass. A few modern liberals like Mexican light beer (with lime added), but most prefer a chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc, with passion fruit and kiwi aromas which are marked by grassy notes, then rounded out on the mid palate by peach flavors. Crisp and refreshing, with a hint of chalky minerality on the finish; or Perrier bottled water. They eat raw fish but generally dislike beef. (Got this part from -gagg- from a former liberal son-in-law before the one daughter woke up and saw what he really was like and dumper is worthless azz)Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, Ivy League professors, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals, even rent-a-cops who couldn't make the real thing. Liberals invented the designated-hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink Budweiser, Lone Star, Beck's Dark, Harpoon IPA or Yuengling Lager.They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, craftsmen, firemen, tradesmen, medical doctors, Harley Riders, police officers - especially Motorcycle Cops, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed, the hard work was done and created a business of trying to get more for nothing. Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above and if they do so, will generally will respond with insults and nonsense. A Conservative will simply laugh and realize the absolute truth of this history. Semper Fi Tattoo Gypsy[image]LinkLinkNot been on much, been kinda busy. May need to hire someone to handle the power cleaning business I also run. If anyone out there is experienced with p/c, drop me a line. communist, conservative, liberal, obama, politics, president, socialist nonadult false Conservative vs. Liberal How It Began text blog communist,conservative,liberal,obama,politics,president,socialist 101 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 5 0 342527 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Dodge-Dealer-Bashes-Obama/BLOG/338696/72667.html Dodge Dealer Bashes ObamaThis was in the Detroit Freepress today. I actually know this guy and his family.Here is what he has to say about the way the Federal Government is handling Chrysler and the Dodge Dealers.BY MARVIN M. TAMAROFF • June 7, 2009As a loyal and successful Dodge dealer for over 22 years, I am not surprised that the marketplace may not support the number of dealers presently representing Chrysler products. However, the methodology Chrysler is attempting to use to reduce its dealer body is unlawful, unconstitutional, un-American and grossly unfair.Under President Barack Obama's direction, Chrysler is attempting to use the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to terminate 789 Dodge/Chrysler dealer franchise agreements arbitrarily, capriciously and without due process of law. The so-called criteria establishing which dealers will be terminated is seriously flawed and nontransparent.Many of the Dodge/Chrysler dealers are profitable, employ quality employees, support their communities and provide the necessary competition to ensure that customers receive competitively priced vehicles. By reducing the number of dealers, you are certain to reduce competition. The undesired effect will be increased prices for cars.Additionally, Chrysler is proposing to take away my franchise without compensating me for its value. I have invested millions of dollars to acquire the Dodge franchise, the dealership facility and the real estate. Chrysler proposes to transfer my franchise and all the goodwill I created over a 22-year span to a Chrysler competitor across the street free of charge.This is occurring despite my Tamaroff Dodge dealership continuously achieving high sales, high customer satisfaction ratings, a 5-star dealer status (Chrysler's highest award), and over 22 years having built a loyal customer base.It is like Crystal Night in Nazi Germany in 1938, but instead of the Nazis seizing private property without due process of law and compensation, Chrysler and President Obama are using the power of a federal bankruptcy judge to run roughshod over the rights of Dodge dealers. Chrysler and Obama are purposely avoiding all state laws and some federal laws designed to protect the dealer from the overwhelming power of the manufacturer. Furthermore, where is the due process for an unconstitutional taking of my franchise rights without just compensation?I am a World War II veteran and former prisoner of war who risked my life to defeat national socialism and Hitler's tyrannical Nazi regime. Never in my 82 years (50 years as an auto dealer and mechanical engineer) would I have anticipated the president of the United States and an appointed federal bankruptcy judge seizing my property and potentially causing me to go into bankruptcy, and in the process acting as instruments of fascism.President Obama: Is this the change you promised the American people? Where is the transparency you promised on the campaign trial?To add insult to injury, Chrysler, at this date, will not buy back any of the dealers' new car inventory -- inventory they pushed on dealers in the last 90 days, threatening that if they did not purchase the cars they would be remembered come "termination day."The worst point about this is the painful effect of laying off our people, many of whom have been with our company since the beginning. They are like family. It is like throwing your kids out on the street, with no job, no money and no health care.Obama is directly responsible for orchestrating this ill-conceived plan.If the executive branch and judicial branch can successfully complete this illegal seizure of property and transfer of wealth from one dealer to another, then is any American's private property safe from government seizure?……………………………………………………….. And yet some people still try to claim Obama is not about SOCIALISM.Then what the hell do you call it when the federal government orders a private American Company, and private DEALERS who own their own business, to close their business, and transfer all the assets to another dealer, free of charge.When do these kind of Socialist tactics, actually become 'SOCIALISM' in the minds of the people who keep claiming that Obama and this new government are not practicing and promoting 'socialism'.When Obama comes after YOUR business, YOUR personal property? And without compensation. It is SOCIALISM THEN?Because if it is, by then, it will be too late.Remember the story of the Catholic Priest during Nazi Germany;When the Nazi's came for the Rabbi I didn't speak or say anything because I was not Jewish.When the Nazi's came for the Christian Minister I didn't say anything because I was not Christian.Now the Nazi's have come for me, and there is no one left to say anything about me.Some people may say I am nutz, insane, and simply wrong. And I pray that I am.But it seems that the way it is going, there will soon be only one of two choices.The first choice is we get the federal government back into compliance with the Constitution as they should be, with limited government, and do it in the Courts and Congress where it should be.The second choice, which is what nobody wants, because it means taking back control of the federal government, by force, in the streets.I hope and pray I am wrong. But look at all the states who themselves are telling the feds they are out of control with the exercising of the 10th Amendment of States Sovereignty.Something needs to change, soon.Tattoo Gypsy[image] Dodge Dealer Bashes ObamaThis was in the Detroit Freepress today. I actually know this guy and his family.Here is what he has to say about the way the Federal Government is handling Chrysler and the Dodge Dealers.BY MARVIN M. TAMAROFF • June 7, 2009As a loyal and successful Dodge dealer for over 22 years, I am not surprised that the marketplace may not support the number of dealers presently representing Chrysler products. However, the methodology Chrysler is attempting to use to reduce its dealer body is unlawful, unconstitutional, un-American and grossly unfair.Under President Barack Obama's direction, Chrysler is attempting to use the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to terminate 789 Dodge/Chrysler dealer franchise agreements arbitrarily, capriciously and without due process of law. The so-called criteria establishing which dealers will be terminated is seriously flawed and nontransparent.Many of the Dodge/Chrysler dealers are profitable, employ quality employees, support their communities and provide the necessary competition to ensure that customers receive competitively priced vehicles. By reducing the number of dealers, you are certain to reduce competition. The undesired effect will be increased prices for cars.Additionally, Chrysler is proposing to take away my franchise without compensating me for its value. I have invested millions of dollars to acquire the Dodge franchise, the dealership facility and the real estate. Chrysler proposes to transfer my franchise and all the goodwill I created over a 22-year span to a Chrysler competitor across the street free of charge.This is occurring despite my Tamaroff Dodge dealership continuously achieving high sales, high customer satisfaction ratings, a 5-star dealer status (Chrysler's highest award), and over 22 years having built a loyal customer base.It is like Crystal Night in Nazi Germany in 1938, but instead of the Nazis seizing private property without due process of law and compensation, Chrysler and President Obama are using the power of a federal bankruptcy judge to run roughshod over the rights of Dodge dealers. Chrysler and Obama are purposely avoiding all state laws and some federal laws designed to protect the dealer from the overwhelming power of the manufacturer. Furthermore, where is the due process for an unconstitutional taking of my franchise rights without just compensation?I am a World War II veteran and former prisoner of war who risked my life to defeat national socialism and Hitler's tyrannical Nazi regime. Never in my 82 years (50 years as an auto dealer and mechanical engineer) would I have anticipated the president of the United States and an appointed federal bankruptcy judge seizing my property and potentially causing me to go into bankruptcy, and in the process acting as instruments of fascism.President Obama: Is this the change you promised the American people? Where is the transparency you promised on the campaign trial?To add insult to injury, Chrysler, at this date, will not buy back any of the dealers' new car inventory -- inventory they pushed on dealers in the last 90 days, threatening that if they did not purchase the cars they would be remembered come "termination day."The worst point about this is the painful effect of laying off our people, many of whom have been with our company since the beginning. They are like family. It is like throwing your kids out on the street, with no job, no money and no health care.Obama is directly responsible for orchestrating this ill-conceived plan.If the executive branch and judicial branch can successfully complete this illegal seizure of property and transfer of wealth from one dealer to another, then is any American's private property safe from government seizure?……………………………………………………….. And yet some people still try to claim Obama is not about SOCIALISM.Then what the hell do you call it when the federal government orders a private American Company, and private DEALERS who own their own business, to close their business, and transfer all the assets to another dealer, free of charge.When do these kind of Socialist tactics, actually become 'SOCIALISM' in the minds of the people who keep claiming that Obama and this new government are not practicing and promoting 'socialism'.When Obama comes after YOUR business, YOUR personal property? And without compensation. It is SOCIALISM THEN?Because if it is, by then, it will be too late.Remember the story of the Catholic Priest during Nazi Germany;When the Nazi's came for the Rabbi I didn't speak or say anything because I was not Jewish.When the Nazi's came for the Christian Minister I didn't say anything because I was not Christian.Now the Nazi's have come for me, and there is no one left to say anything about me.Some people may say I am nutz, insane, and simply wrong. And I pray that I am.But it seems that the way it is going, there will soon be only one of two choices.The first choice is we get the federal government back into compliance with the Constitution as they should be, with limited government, and do it in the Courts and Congress where it should be.The second choice, which is what nobody wants, because it means taking back control of the federal government, by force, in the streets.I hope and pray I am wrong. But look at all the states who themselves are telling the feds they are out of control with the exercising of the 10th Amendment of States Sovereignty.Something needs to change, soon.Tattoo Gypsy[image] Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:38:22 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Dodge-Dealer-Bashes-Obama/BLOG/338696/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-07T23:38:22Z News MyFox Orlando Dodge Dealer Bashes ObamaThis was in the Detroit Freepress today. I actually know this guy and his family.Here is what he has to say about the way the Federal Government is handling Chrysler and the Dodge Dealers.BY MARVIN M. TAMAROFF • June 7, 2009As a loyal and successful Dodge dealer for over 22 years, I am not surprised that the marketplace may not support the number of dealers presently representing Chrysler products. However, the methodology Chrysler is attempting to use to reduce its dealer body is unlawful, unconstitutional, un-American and grossly unfair.Under President Barack Obama's direction, Chrysler is attempting to use the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to terminate 789 Dodge/Chrysler dealer franchise agreements arbitrarily, capriciously and without due process of law. The so-called criteria establishing which dealers will be terminated is seriously flawed and nontransparent.Many of the Dodge/Chrysler dealers are profitable, employ quality employees, support their communities and provide the necessary competition to ensure that customers receive competitively priced vehicles. By reducing the number of dealers, you are certain to reduce competition. The undesired effect will be increased prices for cars.Additionally, Chrysler is proposing to take away my franchise without compensating me for its value. I have invested millions of dollars to acquire the Dodge franchise, the dealership facility and the real estate. Chrysler proposes to transfer my franchise and all the goodwill I created over a 22-year span to a Chrysler competitor across the street free of charge.This is occurring despite my Tamaroff Dodge dealership continuously achieving high sales, high customer satisfaction ratings, a 5-star dealer status (Chrysler's highest award), and over 22 years having built a loyal customer base.It is like Crystal Night in Nazi Germany in 1938, but instead of the Nazis seizing private property without due process of law and compensation, Chrysler and President Obama are using the power of a federal bankruptcy judge to run roughshod over the rights of Dodge dealers. Chrysler and Obama are purposely avoiding all state laws and some federal laws designed to protect the dealer from the overwhelming power of the manufacturer. Furthermore, where is the due process for an unconstitutional taking of my franchise rights without just compensation?I am a World War II veteran and former prisoner of war who risked my life to defeat national socialism and Hitler's tyrannical Nazi regime. Never in my 82 years (50 years as an auto dealer and mechanical engineer) would I have anticipated the president of the United States and an appointed federal bankruptcy judge seizing my property and potentially causing me to go into bankruptcy, and in the process acting as instruments of fascism.President Obama: Is this the change you promised the American people? Where is the transparency you promised on the campaign trial?To add insult to injury, Chrysler, at this date, will not buy back any of the dealers' new car inventory -- inventory they pushed on dealers in the last 90 days, threatening that if they did not purchase the cars they would be remembered come "termination day."The worst point about this is the painful effect of laying off our people, many of whom have been with our company since the beginning. They are like family. It is like throwing your kids out on the street, with no job, no money and no health care.Obama is directly responsible for orchestrating this ill-conceived plan.If the executive branch and judicial branch can successfully complete this illegal seizure of property and transfer of wealth from one dealer to another, then is any American's private property safe from government seizure?……………………………………………………….. And yet some people still try to claim Obama is not about SOCIALISM.Then what the hell do you call it when the federal government orders a private American Company, and private DEALERS who own their own business, to close their business, and transfer all the assets to another dealer, free of charge.When do these kind of Socialist tactics, actually become 'SOCIALISM' in the minds of the people who keep claiming that Obama and this new government are not practicing and promoting 'socialism'.When Obama comes after YOUR business, YOUR personal property? And without compensation. It is SOCIALISM THEN?Because if it is, by then, it will be too late.Remember the story of the Catholic Priest during Nazi Germany;When the Nazi's came for the Rabbi I didn't speak or say anything because I was not Jewish.When the Nazi's came for the Christian Minister I didn't say anything because I was not Christian.Now the Nazi's have come for me, and there is no one left to say anything about me.Some people may say I am nutz, insane, and simply wrong. And I pray that I am.But it seems that the way it is going, there will soon be only one of two choices.The first choice is we get the federal government back into compliance with the Constitution as they should be, with limited government, and do it in the Courts and Congress where it should be.The second choice, which is what nobody wants, because it means taking back control of the federal government, by force, in the streets.I hope and pray I am wrong. But look at all the states who themselves are telling the feds they are out of control with the exercising of the 10th Amendment of States Sovereignty.Something needs to change, soon.Tattoo Gypsy[image] 10th, amendment, bailout, chrysler, dodge, news, obama, president nonadult false Dodge Dealer Bashes Obama text blog 10th,amendment,bailout,chrysler,dodge,news,obama,president 194 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 11 1 338696 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Homegrown-Terrorist-Kills-Soldier/BLOG/300152/72667.html Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, a Muslim convert, decided he didn't like the American Military, and shot up a military recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas.A police report based on an interview with the suspect says Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad told police he observed two soldiers in uniform, drove up to the recruiting center and started shooting."He saw them standing there and drove up and shot them," Lt. Terry Hastings told The Associated Press. "That’s what he said."Army Private William Long, 24, of Conway was killed. Quinton Ezeagwula, 18, of Jacksonville was wounded.In a USA Today report a couple years ago, it stated US Prisons were becoming major breeding grounds for Islamic terrorists. That allows Islamist extremists to target their vulnerable prison-mates with the Quran and other Muslim readings that urge radicalization and violence.An estimated 2 million people are imprisoned in the United States; 6% or around 120,000 of them are Muslim, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons.120,000 radical Muslims, most of whom will eventually be back on the streets. And no one is doing a damned thing about it.The report also cited several high-profile cases of terrorists who became radicalized while incarcerated, including British shoe bomber Richard Reid. It also noted what authorities call a foiled plot of a potential shooting rampage against California military facilities, synagogues and the Israeli Consulate in Los Angeles by followers of Kevin James, who founded the radical group Jamiyyat Ul-Islam Is-Saheeh, or JIS, as an inmate at California State Prison in Sacramento.For the past several years, many people have watched the liberal left’s escalating war on military recruiters–and the apathetic, weak-kneed response to it.The organized campaign of harassment against recruitment offices on college campuses nationwide has escalated The anti-recruiter thugs have thrived.Just like the liberal left wanted to shut out any possibility that last years bombing at the Times Square recruitment center was ideologically motivated.But will any on the liberal left or in the Democrat Party raise their voices–loudly and clearly–to condemn the ongoing, militant anti-recruiter campaign? I have not yet seen it.This terrorist act in Little Rock, Arkansas, was not just a lone single act of violence against our military and recruiting stations. It has been leading up to this kind of violence for a while now, with many, many previous attacks on recruiting stations. With nobody from Bush to Obama really addressing the problem.Now, we have terrorists shooting up and killing our own military, on American Soil.When are the people and the politicians gonna realize we are at war with these Muslim Terrorists. Ya don't try to 'talk peace' they do not want 'peace' Muslim Islamic Terrorist Azzholes, want us to convert to Islam, or die. There is no 'peaceful co-existence'.Convert to Islam, or die. THOSE are you choices. Anything else you think may be a choice of, is nothing more than a illusion. And a bad one at that.Kill'em All, Let God Sort'em Out.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, a Muslim convert, decided he didn't like the American Military, and shot up a military recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas.A police report based on an interview with the suspect says Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad told police he observed two soldiers in uniform, drove up to the recruiting center and started shooting."He saw them standing there and drove up and shot them," Lt. Terry Hastings told The Associated Press. "That’s what he said."Army Private William Long, 24, of Conway was killed. Quinton Ezeagwula, 18, of Jacksonville was wounded.In a USA Today report a couple years ago, it stated US Prisons were becoming major breeding grounds for Islamic terrorists. That allows Islamist extremists to target their vulnerable prison-mates with the Quran and other Muslim readings that urge radicalization and violence.An estimated 2 million people are imprisoned in the United States; 6% or around 120,000 of them are Muslim, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons.120,000 radical Muslims, most of whom will eventually be back on the streets. And no one is doing a damned thing about it.The report also cited several high-profile cases of terrorists who became radicalized while incarcerated, including British shoe bomber Richard Reid. It also noted what authorities call a foiled plot of a potential shooting rampage against California military facilities, synagogues and the Israeli Consulate in Los Angeles by followers of Kevin James, who founded the radical group Jamiyyat Ul-Islam Is-Saheeh, or JIS, as an inmate at California State Prison in Sacramento.For the past several years, many people have watched the liberal left’s escalating war on military recruiters–and the apathetic, weak-kneed response to it.The organized campaign of harassment against recruitment offices on college campuses nationwide has escalated The anti-recruiter thugs have thrived.Just like the liberal left wanted to shut out any possibility that last years bombing at the Times Square recruitment center was ideologically motivated.But will any on the liberal left or in the Democrat Party raise their voices–loudly and clearly–to condemn the ongoing, militant anti-recruiter campaign? I have not yet seen it.This terrorist act in Little Rock, Arkansas, was not just a lone single act of violence against our military and recruiting stations. It has been leading up to this kind of violence for a while now, with many, many previous attacks on recruiting stations. With nobody from Bush to Obama really addressing the problem.Now, we have terrorists shooting up and killing our own military, on American Soil.When are the people and the politicians gonna realize we are at war with these Muslim Terrorists. Ya don't try to 'talk peace' they do not want 'peace' Muslim Islamic Terrorist Azzholes, want us to convert to Islam, or die. There is no 'peaceful co-existence'.Convert to Islam, or die. THOSE are you choices. Anything else you think may be a choice of, is nothing more than a illusion. And a bad one at that.Kill'em All, Let God Sort'em Out.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:53:11 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Homegrown-Terrorist-Kills-Soldier/BLOG/300152/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-03T04:53:11Z News MyFox Orlando Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, a Muslim convert, decided he didn't like the American Military, and shot up a military recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas.A police report based on an interview with the suspect says Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad told police he observed two soldiers in uniform, drove up to the recruiting center and started shooting."He saw them standing there and drove up and shot them," Lt. Terry Hastings told The Associated Press. "That’s what he said."Army Private William Long, 24, of Conway was killed. Quinton Ezeagwula, 18, of Jacksonville was wounded.In a USA Today report a couple years ago, it stated US Prisons were becoming major breeding grounds for Islamic terrorists. That allows Islamist extremists to target their vulnerable prison-mates with the Quran and other Muslim readings that urge radicalization and violence.An estimated 2 million people are imprisoned in the United States; 6% or around 120,000 of them are Muslim, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons.120,000 radical Muslims, most of whom will eventually be back on the streets. And no one is doing a damned thing about it.The report also cited several high-profile cases of terrorists who became radicalized while incarcerated, including British shoe bomber Richard Reid. It also noted what authorities call a foiled plot of a potential shooting rampage against California military facilities, synagogues and the Israeli Consulate in Los Angeles by followers of Kevin James, who founded the radical group Jamiyyat Ul-Islam Is-Saheeh, or JIS, as an inmate at California State Prison in Sacramento.For the past several years, many people have watched the liberal left’s escalating war on military recruiters–and the apathetic, weak-kneed response to it.The organized campaign of harassment against recruitment offices on college campuses nationwide has escalated The anti-recruiter thugs have thrived.Just like the liberal left wanted to shut out any possibility that last years bombing at the Times Square recruitment center was ideologically motivated.But will any on the liberal left or in the Democrat Party raise their voices–loudly and clearly–to condemn the ongoing, militant anti-recruiter campaign? I have not yet seen it.This terrorist act in Little Rock, Arkansas, was not just a lone single act of violence against our military and recruiting stations. It has been leading up to this kind of violence for a while now, with many, many previous attacks on recruiting stations. With nobody from Bush to Obama really addressing the problem.Now, we have terrorists shooting up and killing our own military, on American Soil.When are the people and the politicians gonna realize we are at war with these Muslim Terrorists. Ya don't try to 'talk peace' they do not want 'peace' Muslim Islamic Terrorist Azzholes, want us to convert to Islam, or die. There is no 'peaceful co-existence'.Convert to Islam, or die. THOSE are you choices. Anything else you think may be a choice of, is nothing more than a illusion. And a bad one at that.Kill'em All, Let God Sort'em Out.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] army, bombing, little, military, muslim, news, obama, rock, shooting, terrorist nonadult false Homegrown Terrorist Kills Soldier text blog army,bombing,little,military,muslim,news,obama,rock,shooting,terrorist 612 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 11 0 300152 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Call-For-Obama-Assassination/BLOG/295721/72667.html Pennsylvania Newspaper Runs Ad Calling for Obama Assassination http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523257,00.htmlA small-town newspaper is apologizing for running a classified advertisement calling for the assassination of President Barack Obama.Warren Times Observer Publisher John Elchert says the ad appeared Thursday. It read, "May Obama follow in the steps of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy!" The four presidents were all assassinated.Elchert tells The Associated Press that the newspaper's advertising staff didn't make the historical connection.He says the northwestern Pennsylvania newspaper turned information over to police and that the Secret Service is investigating the person who placed the ad.A note in Friday's paper says the newspaper "apologizes for the oversight."I have to wonder if the ad was from someone who was originally an Obama supporter and quit drinking the koolaid? Just asking. It doesn't say WHO actually posted the ad.Probably find out fairly soon.Tattoo Gypsy[image]http://tattoo-gypsy.blogspot.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/  Pennsylvania Newspaper Runs Ad Calling for Obama Assassination http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523257,00.htmlA small-town newspaper is apologizing for running a classified advertisement calling for the assassination of President Barack Obama.Warren Times Observer Publisher John Elchert says the ad appeared Thursday. It read, "May Obama follow in the steps of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy!" The four presidents were all assassinated.Elchert tells The Associated Press that the newspaper's advertising staff didn't make the historical connection.He says the northwestern Pennsylvania newspaper turned information over to police and that the Secret Service is investigating the person who placed the ad.A note in Friday's paper says the newspaper "apologizes for the oversight."I have to wonder if the ad was from someone who was originally an Obama supporter and quit drinking the koolaid? Just asking. It doesn't say WHO actually posted the ad.Probably find out fairly soon.Tattoo Gypsy[image]http://tattoo-gypsy.blogspot.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/  Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:37:55 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Call-For-Obama-Assassination/BLOG/295721/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-06-01T00:37:55Z News MyFox Orlando Pennsylvania Newspaper Runs Ad Calling for Obama Assassination http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523257,00.htmlA small-town newspaper is apologizing for running a classified advertisement calling for the assassination of President Barack Obama.Warren Times Observer Publisher John Elchert says the ad appeared Thursday. It read, "May Obama follow in the steps of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy!" The four presidents were all assassinated.Elchert tells The Associated Press that the newspaper's advertising staff didn't make the historical connection.He says the northwestern Pennsylvania newspaper turned information over to police and that the Secret Service is investigating the person who placed the ad.A note in Friday's paper says the newspaper "apologizes for the oversight."I have to wonder if the ad was from someone who was originally an Obama supporter and quit drinking the koolaid? Just asking. It doesn't say WHO actually posted the ad.Probably find out fairly soon.Tattoo Gypsy[image]http://tattoo-gypsy.blogspot.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattoo_Gypsys_Reality_Check/  assassination, barack, news, obama, prsident nonadult false Call For Obama Assassination text blog assassination,barack,news,obama,prsident 212 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 23 2 295721 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Friday-Pentagon-Parade/BLOG/292015/72667.html It's that time of year again. Memorial Day weekend is the beginning of summer fun for most Americans, and as I've done before in this space, I want to pause to take note of the real reason there is a Memorial Day. It's meant to honor and pay our respects to those Americans who've given their lives in service to our nation, who stand in an unbroken line from Lexington's rude bridge to Cemetery Ridge to the Argonne Forest to the beaches of Normandy to the frozen Chosin Reservoir to the Ia Drang Valley to the sands of Kuwait to the streets of Baghdad. Over the last 12 months, 1,042 soldiers, Marines, sailors and Air Force personnel have given their lives in the terrible duty that is war. Thousands more have come home on stretchers, horribly wounded and facing months or years in military hospitals. This week, I'm turning my space over to a good friend and former roommate, Army Lt. Col. Robert Bateman, who recently completed a yearlong tour of duty in Iraq and is now back at the Pentagon. Here's Lt. Col. Bateman's account of a little-known ceremony that fills the halls of the Army corridor of the Pentagon with cheers, applause and many tears every Friday morning. It first appeared on May 17 on the Web-log of media critic and pundit Eric Alterman at the Media Matters for America Web site. And again on McClatchy  ———"It is 110 yards from the "E" ring to the "A" ring of the Pentagon. This section of the Pentagon is newly renovated; the floors shine, the hallway is broad, and the lighting is bright. At this instant the entire length of the corridor is packed with officers, a few sergeants and some civilians, all crammed tightly three and four deep against the walls. There are thousands here."This hallway, more than any other, is the `Army' hallway. The G3 offices line one side, G2 the other, G8 is around the corner. All Army. Moderate conversations flow in a low buzz. Friends who may not have seen each other for a few weeks, or a few years, spot each other, cross the way and renew. Everyone shifts to ensure an open path remains down the center. The air conditioning system was not designed for this press of bodies in this area. The temperature is rising already. Nobody cares. "10:36 hours: The clapping starts at the E-Ring. That is the outermost of the five rings of the Pentagon and it is closest to the entrance to the building. This clapping is low, sustained, hearty. It is applause with a deep emotion behind it as it moves forward in a wave down the length of the hallway. "A steady rolling wave of sound it is, moving at the pace of the soldier in the wheelchair who marks the forward edge with his presence. He is the first. He is missing the greater part of one leg, and some of his wounds are still suppurating. By his age I expect that he is a private, or perhaps a private first class. "Captains, majors, lieutenant colonels and colonels meet his gaze and nod as they applaud, soldier to soldier. Three years ago when I described one of these events, those lining the hallways were somewhat different. The applause a little wilder, perhaps in private guilt for not having shared in the burden ... yet. "Now almost everyone lining the hallway is, like the man in the wheelchair, also a combat veteran. This steadies the applause, but I think deepens the sentiment. We have all been there now. The soldier's chair is pushed by, I believe, a full colonel. "Behind him, and stretching the length from Rings E to A, come more of his peers, each private, corporal or sergeant assisted as need be by a field grade officer."11:00 hours: Twenty-four minutes of steady applause. My hands hurt, and I laugh to myself at how stupid that sounds in my own head. `My hands hurt.' Christ. Shut up and clap. For twenty-four minutes, soldier after soldier has come down this hallway—20, 25, 30. Fifty-three legs come with them, and perhaps only 52 hands or arms, but down this hall came 30 solid hearts. "They pass down this corridor of officers and applause, and then meet for a private lunch, at which they are the guests of honor, hosted by the generals. Some are wheeled along. Some insist upon getting out of their chairs, to march as best they can with their chin held up, down this hallway, through this most unique audience. Some are catching handshakes and smiling like a politician at a Fourth of July parade. More than a couple of them seem amazed and are smiling shyly. "There are families with them as well: the 18-year-old war-bride pushing her 19-year-old husband's wheelchair and not quite understanding why her husband is so affected by this, the boy she grew up with, now a man, who had never shed a tear is crying; the older immigrant Latino parents who have, perhaps more than their wounded mid-20s son, an appreciation for the emotion given on their son's behalf. No man in that hallway, walking or clapping, is ashamed by the silent tears on more than a few cheeks. An Airborne Ranger wipes his eyes only to better see. A couple of the officers in this crowd have themselves been a part of this parade in the past. "These are our men, broken in body they may be, but they are our brothers, and we welcome them home. This parade has gone on, every single Friday, all year long, for more than four years." ----------------------------------------------------------------Thanks for sharing this Bob. Be nice if the MSM Media would air this. But I guess with the MSM having their heads up Obama's 'six' we know that ain't gonna happen. Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image](c)White Tiger LLC It's that time of year again. Memorial Day weekend is the beginning of summer fun for most Americans, and as I've done before in this space, I want to pause to take note of the real reason there is a Memorial Day. It's meant to honor and pay our respects to those Americans who've given their lives in service to our nation, who stand in an unbroken line from Lexington's rude bridge to Cemetery Ridge to the Argonne Forest to the beaches of Normandy to the frozen Chosin Reservoir to the Ia Drang Valley to the sands of Kuwait to the streets of Baghdad. Over the last 12 months, 1,042 soldiers, Marines, sailors and Air Force personnel have given their lives in the terrible duty that is war. Thousands more have come home on stretchers, horribly wounded and facing months or years in military hospitals. This week, I'm turning my space over to a good friend and former roommate, Army Lt. Col. Robert Bateman, who recently completed a yearlong tour of duty in Iraq and is now back at the Pentagon. Here's Lt. Col. Bateman's account of a little-known ceremony that fills the halls of the Army corridor of the Pentagon with cheers, applause and many tears every Friday morning. It first appeared on May 17 on the Web-log of media critic and pundit Eric Alterman at the Media Matters for America Web site. And again on McClatchy  ———"It is 110 yards from the "E" ring to the "A" ring of the Pentagon. This section of the Pentagon is newly renovated; the floors shine, the hallway is broad, and the lighting is bright. At this instant the entire length of the corridor is packed with officers, a few sergeants and some civilians, all crammed tightly three and four deep against the walls. There are thousands here."This hallway, more than any other, is the `Army' hallway. The G3 offices line one side, G2 the other, G8 is around the corner. All Army. Moderate conversations flow in a low buzz. Friends who may not have seen each other for a few weeks, or a few years, spot each other, cross the way and renew. Everyone shifts to ensure an open path remains down the center. The air conditioning system was not designed for this press of bodies in this area. The temperature is rising already. Nobody cares. "10:36 hours: The clapping starts at the E-Ring. That is the outermost of the five rings of the Pentagon and it is closest to the entrance to the building. This clapping is low, sustained, hearty. It is applause with a deep emotion behind it as it moves forward in a wave down the length of the hallway. "A steady rolling wave of sound it is, moving at the pace of the soldier in the wheelchair who marks the forward edge with his presence. He is the first. He is missing the greater part of one leg, and some of his wounds are still suppurating. By his age I expect that he is a private, or perhaps a private first class. "Captains, majors, lieutenant colonels and colonels meet his gaze and nod as they applaud, soldier to soldier. Three years ago when I described one of these events, those lining the hallways were somewhat different. The applause a little wilder, perhaps in private guilt for not having shared in the burden ... yet. "Now almost everyone lining the hallway is, like the man in the wheelchair, also a combat veteran. This steadies the applause, but I think deepens the sentiment. We have all been there now. The soldier's chair is pushed by, I believe, a full colonel. "Behind him, and stretching the length from Rings E to A, come more of his peers, each private, corporal or sergeant assisted as need be by a field grade officer."11:00 hours: Twenty-four minutes of steady applause. My hands hurt, and I laugh to myself at how stupid that sounds in my own head. `My hands hurt.' Christ. Shut up and clap. For twenty-four minutes, soldier after soldier has come down this hallway—20, 25, 30. Fifty-three legs come with them, and perhaps only 52 hands or arms, but down this hall came 30 solid hearts. "They pass down this corridor of officers and applause, and then meet for a private lunch, at which they are the guests of honor, hosted by the generals. Some are wheeled along. Some insist upon getting out of their chairs, to march as best they can with their chin held up, down this hallway, through this most unique audience. Some are catching handshakes and smiling like a politician at a Fourth of July parade. More than a couple of them seem amazed and are smiling shyly. "There are families with them as well: the 18-year-old war-bride pushing her 19-year-old husband's wheelchair and not quite understanding why her husband is so affected by this, the boy she grew up with, now a man, who had never shed a tear is crying; the older immigrant Latino parents who have, perhaps more than their wounded mid-20s son, an appreciation for the emotion given on their son's behalf. No man in that hallway, walking or clapping, is ashamed by the silent tears on more than a few cheeks. An Airborne Ranger wipes his eyes only to better see. A couple of the officers in this crowd have themselves been a part of this parade in the past. "These are our men, broken in body they may be, but they are our brothers, and we welcome them home. This parade has gone on, every single Friday, all year long, for more than four years." ----------------------------------------------------------------Thanks for sharing this Bob. Be nice if the MSM Media would air this. But I guess with the MSM having their heads up Obama's 'six' we know that ain't gonna happen. Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image](c)White Tiger LLC Thu, 28 May 2009 17:03:31 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Friday-Pentagon-Parade/BLOG/292015/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-05-28T17:03:31Z News MyFox Orlando It's that time of year again. Memorial Day weekend is the beginning of summer fun for most Americans, and as I've done before in this space, I want to pause to take note of the real reason there is a Memorial Day. It's meant to honor and pay our respects to those Americans who've given their lives in service to our nation, who stand in an unbroken line from Lexington's rude bridge to Cemetery Ridge to the Argonne Forest to the beaches of Normandy to the frozen Chosin Reservoir to the Ia Drang Valley to the sands of Kuwait to the streets of Baghdad. Over the last 12 months, 1,042 soldiers, Marines, sailors and Air Force personnel have given their lives in the terrible duty that is war. Thousands more have come home on stretchers, horribly wounded and facing months or years in military hospitals. This week, I'm turning my space over to a good friend and former roommate, Army Lt. Col. Robert Bateman, who recently completed a yearlong tour of duty in Iraq and is now back at the Pentagon. Here's Lt. Col. Bateman's account of a little-known ceremony that fills the halls of the Army corridor of the Pentagon with cheers, applause and many tears every Friday morning. It first appeared on May 17 on the Web-log of media critic and pundit Eric Alterman at the Media Matters for America Web site. And again on McClatchy  ———"It is 110 yards from the "E" ring to the "A" ring of the Pentagon. This section of the Pentagon is newly renovated; the floors shine, the hallway is broad, and the lighting is bright. At this instant the entire length of the corridor is packed with officers, a few sergeants and some civilians, all crammed tightly three and four deep against the walls. There are thousands here."This hallway, more than any other, is the `Army' hallway. The G3 offices line one side, G2 the other, G8 is around the corner. All Army. Moderate conversations flow in a low buzz. Friends who may not have seen each other for a few weeks, or a few years, spot each other, cross the way and renew. Everyone shifts to ensure an open path remains down the center. The air conditioning system was not designed for this press of bodies in this area. The temperature is rising already. Nobody cares. "10:36 hours: The clapping starts at the E-Ring. That is the outermost of the five rings of the Pentagon and it is closest to the entrance to the building. This clapping is low, sustained, hearty. It is applause with a deep emotion behind it as it moves forward in a wave down the length of the hallway. "A steady rolling wave of sound it is, moving at the pace of the soldier in the wheelchair who marks the forward edge with his presence. He is the first. He is missing the greater part of one leg, and some of his wounds are still suppurating. By his age I expect that he is a private, or perhaps a private first class. "Captains, majors, lieutenant colonels and colonels meet his gaze and nod as they applaud, soldier to soldier. Three years ago when I described one of these events, those lining the hallways were somewhat different. The applause a little wilder, perhaps in private guilt for not having shared in the burden ... yet. "Now almost everyone lining the hallway is, like the man in the wheelchair, also a combat veteran. This steadies the applause, but I think deepens the sentiment. We have all been there now. The soldier's chair is pushed by, I believe, a full colonel. "Behind him, and stretching the length from Rings E to A, come more of his peers, each private, corporal or sergeant assisted as need be by a field grade officer."11:00 hours: Twenty-four minutes of steady applause. My hands hurt, and I laugh to myself at how stupid that sounds in my own head. `My hands hurt.' Christ. Shut up and clap. For twenty-four minutes, soldier after soldier has come down this hallway—20, 25, 30. Fifty-three legs come with them, and perhaps only 52 hands or arms, but down this hall came 30 solid hearts. "They pass down this corridor of officers and applause, and then meet for a private lunch, at which they are the guests of honor, hosted by the generals. Some are wheeled along. Some insist upon getting out of their chairs, to march as best they can with their chin held up, down this hallway, through this most unique audience. Some are catching handshakes and smiling like a politician at a Fourth of July parade. More than a couple of them seem amazed and are smiling shyly. "There are families with them as well: the 18-year-old war-bride pushing her 19-year-old husband's wheelchair and not quite understanding why her husband is so affected by this, the boy she grew up with, now a man, who had never shed a tear is crying; the older immigrant Latino parents who have, perhaps more than their wounded mid-20s son, an appreciation for the emotion given on their son's behalf. No man in that hallway, walking or clapping, is ashamed by the silent tears on more than a few cheeks. An Airborne Ranger wipes his eyes only to better see. A couple of the officers in this crowd have themselves been a part of this parade in the past. "These are our men, broken in body they may be, but they are our brothers, and we welcome them home. This parade has gone on, every single Friday, all year long, for more than four years." ----------------------------------------------------------------Thanks for sharing this Bob. Be nice if the MSM Media would air this. But I guess with the MSM having their heads up Obama's 'six' we know that ain't gonna happen. Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image](c)White Tiger LLC air, army, corps, force, iraq, marine, marines, military, navy, news, obama, parade, pentagon, war nonadult false Friday Pentagon Parade text blog air,army,corps,force,iraq,marine,marines,military,navy,news,obama,parade,pentagon,war 136 0 0.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 292015 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_President-Pantywaist-Obama/BLOG/290566/72667.html So first, the Russians talk about how America is declining into Marxism - Socialism, and if anyone should know Socialism and Marxism, it's the Russians and Chinese;Now even the British are getting into the act talking about President Pantywaist Obama and"Why does President Pantywaist Hate America So Much?"Gerald Warner in the UK Telegraph Newspaper writes:If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Looney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself.Never in the history of the United States has a president worked so actively against the interests of his own people - not even Jimmy Carter.Obama's problem is that he does not know who the enemy is. To him, the enemy does not squat in caves in Waziristan, clutching automatic weapons and reciting the more militant verses from the Koran: instead, it sits around at tea parties in Kentucky quoting from the US Constitution.Obama is not at war with terrorists, but with his Republican fellow citizens. He has never abandoned the campaign trail.That is why he opened Pandora's Box by publishing the Justice Department's legal opinions on waterboarding and other hardline interrogation techniques.He cynically subordinated the national interest to his partisan desire to embarrass the Republicans.Then he had to rush to Langley, Virginia to try to reassure a demoralised CIA that had just discovered the President of the United States was an even more formidable foe than al-Qaeda."Don't be discouraged by what's happened the last few weeks," he told intelligence officers.Is he kidding? Thanks to him, al-Qaeda knows the private interrogation techniques available to the US intelligence agencies and can train its operatives to withstand them - or would do so, if they had not already been outlawed.So, next time a senior al-Qaeda hood is captured, all the CIA can do is ask him nicely if he would care to reveal when a major population centre is due to be hit by a terror spectacular, or which American city is about to be irradiated by a dirty bomb.Your view of this situation will be dictated by one simple criterion: whether or not you watched the people jumping from the twin towers.Obama promised his CIA audience that nobody would be prosecuted for past actions. That has already been contradicted by leftist groups with a revanchist ambition to put Republicans, headed if possible by Condoleezza Rice, in the dock.Talk about playing party politics with national security. Martin Scheinin, the United Nations special investigator for human rights, claims that senior figures, including former vice president Dick Cheney, could face prosecution overseas.Ponder that - once you have got over the difficulty of locating the United Nations and human rights within the same dimension.President Pantywaist Obama should have thought twice before sitting down to play poker with Dick Cheney.The former vice president believes documents have been selectively published and that releasing more will prove how effective the interrogation techniques were.Under Dubya's administration, there was no further atrocity on American soil after 9/11.President Pantywaist's recent world tour, cosying up to all the bad guys, excited the ambitions of America's enemies.Here, they realised, is a sucker they can really take to the cleaners. His only enemies are fellow Americans.Which prompts the question: why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?------------------------------------------------Looking at it from that perspective, yeah, one really does have to ask, exactly why does President Pantywaist, oops, my bad, President Obama, HATE America so much?Good question.Tattoo Gypsy So first, the Russians talk about how America is declining into Marxism - Socialism, and if anyone should know Socialism and Marxism, it's the Russians and Chinese;Now even the British are getting into the act talking about President Pantywaist Obama and"Why does President Pantywaist Hate America So Much?"Gerald Warner in the UK Telegraph Newspaper writes:If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Looney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself.Never in the history of the United States has a president worked so actively against the interests of his own people - not even Jimmy Carter.Obama's problem is that he does not know who the enemy is. To him, the enemy does not squat in caves in Waziristan, clutching automatic weapons and reciting the more militant verses from the Koran: instead, it sits around at tea parties in Kentucky quoting from the US Constitution.Obama is not at war with terrorists, but with his Republican fellow citizens. He has never abandoned the campaign trail.That is why he opened Pandora's Box by publishing the Justice Department's legal opinions on waterboarding and other hardline interrogation techniques.He cynically subordinated the national interest to his partisan desire to embarrass the Republicans.Then he had to rush to Langley, Virginia to try to reassure a demoralised CIA that had just discovered the President of the United States was an even more formidable foe than al-Qaeda."Don't be discouraged by what's happened the last few weeks," he told intelligence officers.Is he kidding? Thanks to him, al-Qaeda knows the private interrogation techniques available to the US intelligence agencies and can train its operatives to withstand them - or would do so, if they had not already been outlawed.So, next time a senior al-Qaeda hood is captured, all the CIA can do is ask him nicely if he would care to reveal when a major population centre is due to be hit by a terror spectacular, or which American city is about to be irradiated by a dirty bomb.Your view of this situation will be dictated by one simple criterion: whether or not you watched the people jumping from the twin towers.Obama promised his CIA audience that nobody would be prosecuted for past actions. That has already been contradicted by leftist groups with a revanchist ambition to put Republicans, headed if possible by Condoleezza Rice, in the dock.Talk about playing party politics with national security. Martin Scheinin, the United Nations special investigator for human rights, claims that senior figures, including former vice president Dick Cheney, could face prosecution overseas.Ponder that - once you have got over the difficulty of locating the United Nations and human rights within the same dimension.President Pantywaist Obama should have thought twice before sitting down to play poker with Dick Cheney.The former vice president believes documents have been selectively published and that releasing more will prove how effective the interrogation techniques were.Under Dubya's administration, there was no further atrocity on American soil after 9/11.President Pantywaist's recent world tour, cosying up to all the bad guys, excited the ambitions of America's enemies.Here, they realised, is a sucker they can really take to the cleaners. His only enemies are fellow Americans.Which prompts the question: why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?------------------------------------------------Looking at it from that perspective, yeah, one really does have to ask, exactly why does President Pantywaist, oops, my bad, President Obama, HATE America so much?Good question.Tattoo Gypsy Wed, 27 May 2009 14:06:54 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_President-Pantywaist-Obama/BLOG/290566/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-05-27T14:06:54Z News MyFox Orlando So first, the Russians talk about how America is declining into Marxism - Socialism, and if anyone should know Socialism and Marxism, it's the Russians and Chinese;Now even the British are getting into the act talking about President Pantywaist Obama and"Why does President Pantywaist Hate America So Much?"Gerald Warner in the UK Telegraph Newspaper writes:If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Looney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself.Never in the history of the United States has a president worked so actively against the interests of his own people - not even Jimmy Carter.Obama's problem is that he does not know who the enemy is. To him, the enemy does not squat in caves in Waziristan, clutching automatic weapons and reciting the more militant verses from the Koran: instead, it sits around at tea parties in Kentucky quoting from the US Constitution.Obama is not at war with terrorists, but with his Republican fellow citizens. He has never abandoned the campaign trail.That is why he opened Pandora's Box by publishing the Justice Department's legal opinions on waterboarding and other hardline interrogation techniques.He cynically subordinated the national interest to his partisan desire to embarrass the Republicans.Then he had to rush to Langley, Virginia to try to reassure a demoralised CIA that had just discovered the President of the United States was an even more formidable foe than al-Qaeda."Don't be discouraged by what's happened the last few weeks," he told intelligence officers.Is he kidding? Thanks to him, al-Qaeda knows the private interrogation techniques available to the US intelligence agencies and can train its operatives to withstand them - or would do so, if they had not already been outlawed.So, next time a senior al-Qaeda hood is captured, all the CIA can do is ask him nicely if he would care to reveal when a major population centre is due to be hit by a terror spectacular, or which American city is about to be irradiated by a dirty bomb.Your view of this situation will be dictated by one simple criterion: whether or not you watched the people jumping from the twin towers.Obama promised his CIA audience that nobody would be prosecuted for past actions. That has already been contradicted by leftist groups with a revanchist ambition to put Republicans, headed if possible by Condoleezza Rice, in the dock.Talk about playing party politics with national security. Martin Scheinin, the United Nations special investigator for human rights, claims that senior figures, including former vice president Dick Cheney, could face prosecution overseas.Ponder that - once you have got over the difficulty of locating the United Nations and human rights within the same dimension.President Pantywaist Obama should have thought twice before sitting down to play poker with Dick Cheney.The former vice president believes documents have been selectively published and that releasing more will prove how effective the interrogation techniques were.Under Dubya's administration, there was no further atrocity on American soil after 9/11.President Pantywaist's recent world tour, cosying up to all the bad guys, excited the ambitions of America's enemies.Here, they realised, is a sucker they can really take to the cleaners. His only enemies are fellow Americans.Which prompts the question: why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?------------------------------------------------Looking at it from that perspective, yeah, one really does have to ask, exactly why does President Pantywaist, oops, my bad, President Obama, HATE America so much?Good question.Tattoo Gypsy news, obama, pantywaist, president nonadult false "President Pantywaist" Obama text blog news,obama,pantywaist,president 267 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 6 0 290566 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Russia-On-USAs-Descent-into-Marxism/BLOG/288528/72667.html The Russian newspaper Pravda (English Edition) lamenting America's descent into Marxism.American capitalism gone with a whimper?27.04.2009Source: Pravda.Ru http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/27-04-2009/107459-american_capitalism-0  It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives.They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blindeth the foolish.Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and topprotestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another.Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world.If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison.Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the sher volumes. Should we congratulate them?These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another.They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament) . Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company.That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies.I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.Stanislav Mishin-----------------------------------------Even Russia is not blind to what is happening in this Country. When are American's gonna wake up and take back their Country before it's too late. Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image](c)White Tiger LLC The Russian newspaper Pravda (English Edition) lamenting America's descent into Marxism.American capitalism gone with a whimper?27.04.2009Source: Pravda.Ru http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/27-04-2009/107459-american_capitalism-0  It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives.They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blindeth the foolish.Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and topprotestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another.Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world.If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison.Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the sher volumes. Should we congratulate them?These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another.They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament) . Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company.That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies.I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.Stanislav Mishin-----------------------------------------Even Russia is not blind to what is happening in this Country. When are American's gonna wake up and take back their Country before it's too late. Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image](c)White Tiger LLC Mon, 25 May 2009 14:00:09 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Russia-On-USAs-Descent-into-Marxism/BLOG/288528/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-05-25T14:00:09Z News MyFox Orlando The Russian newspaper Pravda (English Edition) lamenting America's descent into Marxism.American capitalism gone with a whimper?27.04.2009Source: Pravda.Ru http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/27-04-2009/107459-american_capitalism-0  It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives.They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blindeth the foolish.Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and topprotestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another.Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world.If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison.Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the sher volumes. Should we congratulate them?These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another.They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament) . Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company.That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies.I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.Stanislav Mishin-----------------------------------------Even Russia is not blind to what is happening in this Country. When are American's gonna wake up and take back their Country before it's too late. Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image](c)White Tiger LLC america, marxism, news, obama, russia, socialism, usa nonadult false Russia On USA's Descent into Marxism text blog america,marxism,news,obama,russia,socialism,usa 391 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 2 1 288528 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_ObamaTo-Ban-Ammo-Reloading/BLOG/287878/72667.html Obama Pushing Treaty To Ban Ammo ReloadingRemember CANDIDATE Barack Obama? The guy who "wasn’t going to take away our guns"?Well, hate to be the one who said told ya so, but we told ya so?Remember, Barack Hussein Obama has never met a gun he didn’t hate. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if BB Guns didn't end up on the chopping block with this piece of international gun control bullcrap.When Obama went to Mexico in April, he whined (like a sissy girlyman) about the United States and bemoaned (before the whole world) the fact that he didn’t have the political power to take away our guns.Nevertheless, that didn’t keep him from pushing additional restrictions on American gun owners.http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/1079  http://www.america.gov/st/peacesec-english/2009/April/20090416181608dmslahrellek0.5508386.html?CP.rss=truehttp://www.mexidata.info/id2236.html  It’s called the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.You can read the entire text of this proposed international treaty that Obama WANTS ratified by the US Congress, here:http://www.oas.org/juridico/english/treaties/a-63.html  This treaty was originally written in 1997 under that last Gun Hating 'American' President William Jefferson Clinton as well as being signed by the skirt chasing liar Clinton.But under President Bush, the treaty was never ratified by the Congress.However, President Obama and his liberal dominated Congress might just find an easier time now ratifying this bullcrap gun treaty.To be sure, this imponderable title masks a really nasty piece of work.First of all, when the treaty purports to ban the "illicit" manufacture of firearms, what does that mean?"Illicit manufacturing" of firearms is defined as "assembly of firearms [or] ammunition ... without a license...."Hence, reloading ammunition -- or putting together a lawful firearm from a kit -- is clearly "illicit manufacturing."Modifying a firearm in any way would surely be "illicit manufacturing."And, while it would be a stretch, assembling a firearm after cleaning it could, in any plain reading of the words, come within the screwy definition of "illicit manufacturing.""Firearm" has a similarly questionable definition."Any other weapon" is a "firearm," according to the treaty -- and the term "weapon" is nowhere defined.So, is a BB gun a "firearm"? Could be.A toy gun? Possibly.A pistol grip or firing pin? Probably. And who knows what else.If these provisions (and others) become the law of the land, the Obama administration could have a heyday in enforcing them.Consider some of the other provisions in the treaty:Banning reloading. In Article IV of the treaty, countries commit to adopting "necessary legislative or other measures" to criminalize illicit manufacturing and trafficking in firearms.Remember that "illicit manufacturing" includes reloading and modifying or assembling a firearm in any way.This would mean that the Obama administration could promulgate regulations banning reloading on the basis of this treaty -- just as it is currently circumventing Congress to write legislation taxing greenhouse gases.Banning gun clubs. Article IV goes on to state that the criminalized acts should include "association or conspiracy" in connection with said offenses -- which is arguably a term broad enough to allow, by regulation, the criminalization of entire pro-gun organizations or gun clubs, based on the facilities which they provide their membership. Including possibly even the NRA, the National Rifle Association.Oh, this is good (NOT); Extraditing US gun dealers (even to Mexico).Article V requires each party to "adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention" under a variety of circumstances.We know that Mexico is blaming U.S. gun dealers for the fact that its streets are flowing with blood. And we know it is possible for Mexico to define offenses "committed in its territory" in a very broad way. And we know that we have an extradition obligation under Article XIX of the proposed treaty.So we know that Mexico could try to use the treaty to demand to extradition of American gun dealers.Under Article XXIX, if Mexico demands the extradition of a lawful American gun dealer, the U.S. would be required to resolve the dispute through "other means of peaceful settlement."Does anyone want to risk twenty years in a sweltering Mexican jail on the proposition that the Obama administration would apply this provision in a pro-gun manner?Microstamping. Article VI requires "appropriate markings" on firearms. And, it is not inconceivable that this provision could be used to require microstamping of firearms and/or ammunition -- a requirement which is clearly intended to impose specifications which are not technologically possible or which are possible only at a prohibitively expensive cost.Gun registration. Article XI requires the maintenance of any records, for a "reasonable time," that the government determines to be necessary to trace firearms.This provision would almost certainly repeal portions of McClure-Volkmer and could arguably be used to require a national registry or database.At this point, about the only thing that can be done is to write your Senators and urge them to oppose the:Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] Obama Pushing Treaty To Ban Ammo ReloadingRemember CANDIDATE Barack Obama? The guy who "wasn’t going to take away our guns"?Well, hate to be the one who said told ya so, but we told ya so?Remember, Barack Hussein Obama has never met a gun he didn’t hate. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if BB Guns didn't end up on the chopping block with this piece of international gun control bullcrap.When Obama went to Mexico in April, he whined (like a sissy girlyman) about the United States and bemoaned (before the whole world) the fact that he didn’t have the political power to take away our guns.Nevertheless, that didn’t keep him from pushing additional restrictions on American gun owners.http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/1079  http://www.america.gov/st/peacesec-english/2009/April/20090416181608dmslahrellek0.5508386.html?CP.rss=truehttp://www.mexidata.info/id2236.html  It’s called the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.You can read the entire text of this proposed international treaty that Obama WANTS ratified by the US Congress, here:http://www.oas.org/juridico/english/treaties/a-63.html  This treaty was originally written in 1997 under that last Gun Hating 'American' President William Jefferson Clinton as well as being signed by the skirt chasing liar Clinton.But under President Bush, the treaty was never ratified by the Congress.However, President Obama and his liberal dominated Congress might just find an easier time now ratifying this bullcrap gun treaty.To be sure, this imponderable title masks a really nasty piece of work.First of all, when the treaty purports to ban the "illicit" manufacture of firearms, what does that mean?"Illicit manufacturing" of firearms is defined as "assembly of firearms [or] ammunition ... without a license...."Hence, reloading ammunition -- or putting together a lawful firearm from a kit -- is clearly "illicit manufacturing."Modifying a firearm in any way would surely be "illicit manufacturing."And, while it would be a stretch, assembling a firearm after cleaning it could, in any plain reading of the words, come within the screwy definition of "illicit manufacturing.""Firearm" has a similarly questionable definition."Any other weapon" is a "firearm," according to the treaty -- and the term "weapon" is nowhere defined.So, is a BB gun a "firearm"? Could be.A toy gun? Possibly.A pistol grip or firing pin? Probably. And who knows what else.If these provisions (and others) become the law of the land, the Obama administration could have a heyday in enforcing them.Consider some of the other provisions in the treaty:Banning reloading. In Article IV of the treaty, countries commit to adopting "necessary legislative or other measures" to criminalize illicit manufacturing and trafficking in firearms.Remember that "illicit manufacturing" includes reloading and modifying or assembling a firearm in any way.This would mean that the Obama administration could promulgate regulations banning reloading on the basis of this treaty -- just as it is currently circumventing Congress to write legislation taxing greenhouse gases.Banning gun clubs. Article IV goes on to state that the criminalized acts should include "association or conspiracy" in connection with said offenses -- which is arguably a term broad enough to allow, by regulation, the criminalization of entire pro-gun organizations or gun clubs, based on the facilities which they provide their membership. Including possibly even the NRA, the National Rifle Association.Oh, this is good (NOT); Extraditing US gun dealers (even to Mexico).Article V requires each party to "adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention" under a variety of circumstances.We know that Mexico is blaming U.S. gun dealers for the fact that its streets are flowing with blood. And we know it is possible for Mexico to define offenses "committed in its territory" in a very broad way. And we know that we have an extradition obligation under Article XIX of the proposed treaty.So we know that Mexico could try to use the treaty to demand to extradition of American gun dealers.Under Article XXIX, if Mexico demands the extradition of a lawful American gun dealer, the U.S. would be required to resolve the dispute through "other means of peaceful settlement."Does anyone want to risk twenty years in a sweltering Mexican jail on the proposition that the Obama administration would apply this provision in a pro-gun manner?Microstamping. Article VI requires "appropriate markings" on firearms. And, it is not inconceivable that this provision could be used to require microstamping of firearms and/or ammunition -- a requirement which is clearly intended to impose specifications which are not technologically possible or which are possible only at a prohibitively expensive cost.Gun registration. Article XI requires the maintenance of any records, for a "reasonable time," that the government determines to be necessary to trace firearms.This provision would almost certainly repeal portions of McClure-Volkmer and could arguably be used to require a national registry or database.At this point, about the only thing that can be done is to write your Senators and urge them to oppose the:Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] Sun, 24 May 2009 15:33:18 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_ObamaTo-Ban-Ammo-Reloading/BLOG/287878/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-05-24T15:33:18Z News Cool Schools MyFox Orlando Obama Pushing Treaty To Ban Ammo ReloadingRemember CANDIDATE Barack Obama? The guy who "wasn’t going to take away our guns"?Well, hate to be the one who said told ya so, but we told ya so?Remember, Barack Hussein Obama has never met a gun he didn’t hate. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if BB Guns didn't end up on the chopping block with this piece of international gun control bullcrap.When Obama went to Mexico in April, he whined (like a sissy girlyman) about the United States and bemoaned (before the whole world) the fact that he didn’t have the political power to take away our guns.Nevertheless, that didn’t keep him from pushing additional restrictions on American gun owners.http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/1079  http://www.america.gov/st/peacesec-english/2009/April/20090416181608dmslahrellek0.5508386.html?CP.rss=truehttp://www.mexidata.info/id2236.html  It’s called the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.You can read the entire text of this proposed international treaty that Obama WANTS ratified by the US Congress, here:http://www.oas.org/juridico/english/treaties/a-63.html  This treaty was originally written in 1997 under that last Gun Hating 'American' President William Jefferson Clinton as well as being signed by the skirt chasing liar Clinton.But under President Bush, the treaty was never ratified by the Congress.However, President Obama and his liberal dominated Congress might just find an easier time now ratifying this bullcrap gun treaty.To be sure, this imponderable title masks a really nasty piece of work.First of all, when the treaty purports to ban the "illicit" manufacture of firearms, what does that mean?"Illicit manufacturing" of firearms is defined as "assembly of firearms [or] ammunition ... without a license...."Hence, reloading ammunition -- or putting together a lawful firearm from a kit -- is clearly "illicit manufacturing."Modifying a firearm in any way would surely be "illicit manufacturing."And, while it would be a stretch, assembling a firearm after cleaning it could, in any plain reading of the words, come within the screwy definition of "illicit manufacturing.""Firearm" has a similarly questionable definition."Any other weapon" is a "firearm," according to the treaty -- and the term "weapon" is nowhere defined.So, is a BB gun a "firearm"? Could be.A toy gun? Possibly.A pistol grip or firing pin? Probably. And who knows what else.If these provisions (and others) become the law of the land, the Obama administration could have a heyday in enforcing them.Consider some of the other provisions in the treaty:Banning reloading. In Article IV of the treaty, countries commit to adopting "necessary legislative or other measures" to criminalize illicit manufacturing and trafficking in firearms.Remember that "illicit manufacturing" includes reloading and modifying or assembling a firearm in any way.This would mean that the Obama administration could promulgate regulations banning reloading on the basis of this treaty -- just as it is currently circumventing Congress to write legislation taxing greenhouse gases.Banning gun clubs. Article IV goes on to state that the criminalized acts should include "association or conspiracy" in connection with said offenses -- which is arguably a term broad enough to allow, by regulation, the criminalization of entire pro-gun organizations or gun clubs, based on the facilities which they provide their membership. Including possibly even the NRA, the National Rifle Association.Oh, this is good (NOT); Extraditing US gun dealers (even to Mexico).Article V requires each party to "adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention" under a variety of circumstances.We know that Mexico is blaming U.S. gun dealers for the fact that its streets are flowing with blood. And we know it is possible for Mexico to define offenses "committed in its territory" in a very broad way. And we know that we have an extradition obligation under Article XIX of the proposed treaty.So we know that Mexico could try to use the treaty to demand to extradition of American gun dealers.Under Article XXIX, if Mexico demands the extradition of a lawful American gun dealer, the U.S. would be required to resolve the dispute through "other means of peaceful settlement."Does anyone want to risk twenty years in a sweltering Mexican jail on the proposition that the Obama administration would apply this provision in a pro-gun manner?Microstamping. Article VI requires "appropriate markings" on firearms. And, it is not inconceivable that this provision could be used to require microstamping of firearms and/or ammunition -- a requirement which is clearly intended to impose specifications which are not technologically possible or which are possible only at a prohibitively expensive cost.Gun registration. Article XI requires the maintenance of any records, for a "reasonable time," that the government determines to be necessary to trace firearms.This provision would almost certainly repeal portions of McClure-Volkmer and could arguably be used to require a national registry or database.At this point, about the only thing that can be done is to write your Senators and urge them to oppose the:Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.Semper FiTattoo Gypsy[image] ammo, cool schools, firearms, guns, news, nra, obama, president, usa nonadult false Obama...To Ban Ammo Reloading text blog ammo,cool schools,firearms,guns,news,nra,obama,president,usa 240 1 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 14 0 287878 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Hitler-vs-Obama/BLOG/287337/72667.html This ought to pizz some people off.For a couple years now, people have been comparing Obama to Adolph Hitler. Which while they both made pretty speeches, I honestly thought was a bit much. Till I read a book written by a former Hitler Youth member.Defeating the Totalitarian Lie, by Hilmar von Campe, is the true story of a German Hitler Youth before, during and after the 12 years of Nazi rule.Mr. von Campe talks about a growing number of political developments have emerged which threaten American sovereignty, including the very real political similarities of Hitler and Obama.Mr. Von Campe shows how every day brings this nation closer to a Nazi-style totalitarian abyss.Mr. von Campe warns us that we as a Nation face greater challenges today from within our own American Government, than Germany did with Adolph Hitler.Just one of the subjects Mr. von Campe gets deeply into, is gun control. He says that the enemies of freedom do not like the idea of armed citizens and try all sorts of means to control or eliminate guns in private hands.He talks about how Hitler described on April 11, 1942, in a dinner keynote address his thinking regarding the matter of gun control:Quoting Hitler: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. I would go so far as to say that supply of arms to the underdog is a sine qua non to overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police." End Quote.Adolph Hitler made clear that his principle is valid to wherever somebody wants to overthrow any sovereignty.In the case of America, you just need to say "citizen" instead of "race" and you understand what that "somebody" means when he tells you his lies about why he wants to do it. It really is that simple!Mr. von Campe says "The Nazis also controlled the media, which fed us with lies about what they were doing and why."Pretty much the way the current media cannot ever seem to be straight with the American people about what is going on in our own government. Instead, we get an 'Obama politically correct' version of the media spin.Mr. von Campe also goes on to explain how the Democratic Party and Barack Obama would like to get a similar status of power as the Nazis had.The so-called Fairness Doctrine is a steppingstone in that direction. If you hear some MSM anchor say, "We have to have free speech in some kind of context," then you know what he is up to.Just look at the way the media fawned over Obama during the campaign. It's no wonder a lot of people state Obama was 'selected' by the media and not 'elected' by the voters.Different from any "normal" dictatorship, a totalitarian system goes after the minds and hearts of the population with the purpose to make them do voluntarily what the government wants them to do.Look at the distinct love affair, and even the 'worship' of those who love President Obama. This is the same exact 'love affair and worship' Germans first had for Adolph Hitler. Hitler was able to use that worship to his own advantage, and his worshipers would viciously attack anyone who would dare disagree with Hitler.Which pretty much sounds like Obama's followers, and even the media, and their vicious attacks against those who do not 'follow or worship' Obama.There was another Nazi organization that had the same task as all other institutions, namely to keep people under control and influence their thinking. It was the Service to Work.Young men had to serve half a year in the Service to Work before entering into military service.It seems that President Obama also likes this Nazi feature, because he has already created a national community service program, just recently passed into law, and in addition Obama plans to create a civilian national security. A force which some people may jokingly refer to as Brownshirt's, but nonetheless, is very comparable to Hitler's own SS.According to Mr. von Campe, Obama's motives for this cannot be all that different from the Nazi motives – to bring as many youth as possible under their socialist umbrella and influence.And for those who do not seem to feel President Obama truly is a Socialist, do your homework.Barack Obama was a member of The New Party. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JtTfGekhAhY/SQA32CKNgPI/AAAAAAAABx8/3ofJxBZBksQ/s1600-h/np1.JPGThe NP was formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America and leaders of an offshoot of the Community Party USA, and was an electoral alliance that worked alongside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. The New Party's aim was to help elect politicians to office who espouse its policies. Mr. von Campe also shows how Socialist Hitler was installed into power by the then German president, Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg.That made it easy for him to get the military leaders out of the way and in control of the armed forces – the only force in the country that could have spoiled his plans.Obama also was endorsed by famous Gen. Colin Powell with a well-calculated timing shortly before the election. It was a signal to the military that it was OK to vote for Obama.Germany at the beginning of the '30s was in deep economic trouble with about 6 million unemployed. Kinda like America that past year or so. And even more so this year.Hitler became the savior and fooled millions of Germans who adored him but had no clue what he had in mind. Once in power, he immediately began to secure his position. He eliminated all opposition and produced jobs for 6 million people.Hitler (like Obama) also started taking over various industries, banks, auto companies. Even 'working' with Volkswagen.No, contrary to popular rumor, Hitler did not design the Beetle. He did however help design the KDF. Which was a precursor to the Beetle. Hitler called the new car the "KdF-Wagen" — the "Strength Through Joy Car" — after the Nazi-led KdF (Kraft durch Freude) movement that was supposed to look after the working people.The same is true for America now in the worst economic and financial crisis ever. Obama appears as a savior without people analyzing his character and record. Spending money, taking over banks and auto companies, firing auto executives, promising millions of new jobs.Both men were or are not what they pretended to be. Both men used the catastrophic national economy to blame others for having created the desolate state of the country as a road to power.Mr. von Campe believes that President Obama wants to lead the American nation onto the same road Germany took in 1933.There is a lot to cover in this book. Search on the internet and find it if you really want to know about the Hitler vs Obama similarities.I know I see it, I know a lot of other people see it.And I know anyone who is mainlining the koolaid will not see it. But who knows, maybe someone will get the nerve up and put down the koolaid, and pick up a book.Tattoo Gypsy[image] This ought to pizz some people off.For a couple years now, people have been comparing Obama to Adolph Hitler. Which while they both made pretty speeches, I honestly thought was a bit much. Till I read a book written by a former Hitler Youth member.Defeating the Totalitarian Lie, by Hilmar von Campe, is the true story of a German Hitler Youth before, during and after the 12 years of Nazi rule.Mr. von Campe talks about a growing number of political developments have emerged which threaten American sovereignty, including the very real political similarities of Hitler and Obama.Mr. Von Campe shows how every day brings this nation closer to a Nazi-style totalitarian abyss.Mr. von Campe warns us that we as a Nation face greater challenges today from within our own American Government, than Germany did with Adolph Hitler.Just one of the subjects Mr. von Campe gets deeply into, is gun control. He says that the enemies of freedom do not like the idea of armed citizens and try all sorts of means to control or eliminate guns in private hands.He talks about how Hitler described on April 11, 1942, in a dinner keynote address his thinking regarding the matter of gun control:Quoting Hitler: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. I would go so far as to say that supply of arms to the underdog is a sine qua non to overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police." End Quote.Adolph Hitler made clear that his principle is valid to wherever somebody wants to overthrow any sovereignty.In the case of America, you just need to say "citizen" instead of "race" and you understand what that "somebody" means when he tells you his lies about why he wants to do it. It really is that simple!Mr. von Campe says "The Nazis also controlled the media, which fed us with lies about what they were doing and why."Pretty much the way the current media cannot ever seem to be straight with the American people about what is going on in our own government. Instead, we get an 'Obama politically correct' version of the media spin.Mr. von Campe also goes on to explain how the Democratic Party and Barack Obama would like to get a similar status of power as the Nazis had.The so-called Fairness Doctrine is a steppingstone in that direction. If you hear some MSM anchor say, "We have to have free speech in some kind of context," then you know what he is up to.Just look at the way the media fawned over Obama during the campaign. It's no wonder a lot of people state Obama was 'selected' by the media and not 'elected' by the voters.Different from any "normal" dictatorship, a totalitarian system goes after the minds and hearts of the population with the purpose to make them do voluntarily what the government wants them to do.Look at the distinct love affair, and even the 'worship' of those who love President Obama. This is the same exact 'love affair and worship' Germans first had for Adolph Hitler. Hitler was able to use that worship to his own advantage, and his worshipers would viciously attack anyone who would dare disagree with Hitler.Which pretty much sounds like Obama's followers, and even the media, and their vicious attacks against those who do not 'follow or worship' Obama.There was another Nazi organization that had the same task as all other institutions, namely to keep people under control and influence their thinking. It was the Service to Work.Young men had to serve half a year in the Service to Work before entering into military service.It seems that President Obama also likes this Nazi feature, because he has already created a national community service program, just recently passed into law, and in addition Obama plans to create a civilian national security. A force which some people may jokingly refer to as Brownshirt's, but nonetheless, is very comparable to Hitler's own SS.According to Mr. von Campe, Obama's motives for this cannot be all that different from the Nazi motives – to bring as many youth as possible under their socialist umbrella and influence.And for those who do not seem to feel President Obama truly is a Socialist, do your homework.Barack Obama was a member of The New Party. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JtTfGekhAhY/SQA32CKNgPI/AAAAAAAABx8/3ofJxBZBksQ/s1600-h/np1.JPGThe NP was formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America and leaders of an offshoot of the Community Party USA, and was an electoral alliance that worked alongside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. The New Party's aim was to help elect politicians to office who espouse its policies. Mr. von Campe also shows how Socialist Hitler was installed into power by the then German president, Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg.That made it easy for him to get the military leaders out of the way and in control of the armed forces – the only force in the country that could have spoiled his plans.Obama also was endorsed by famous Gen. Colin Powell with a well-calculated timing shortly before the election. It was a signal to the military that it was OK to vote for Obama.Germany at the beginning of the '30s was in deep economic trouble with about 6 million unemployed. Kinda like America that past year or so. And even more so this year.Hitler became the savior and fooled millions of Germans who adored him but had no clue what he had in mind. Once in power, he immediately began to secure his position. He eliminated all opposition and produced jobs for 6 million people.Hitler (like Obama) also started taking over various industries, banks, auto companies. Even 'working' with Volkswagen.No, contrary to popular rumor, Hitler did not design the Beetle. He did however help design the KDF. Which was a precursor to the Beetle. Hitler called the new car the "KdF-Wagen" — the "Strength Through Joy Car" — after the Nazi-led KdF (Kraft durch Freude) movement that was supposed to look after the working people.The same is true for America now in the worst economic and financial crisis ever. Obama appears as a savior without people analyzing his character and record. Spending money, taking over banks and auto companies, firing auto executives, promising millions of new jobs.Both men were or are not what they pretended to be. Both men used the catastrophic national economy to blame others for having created the desolate state of the country as a road to power.Mr. von Campe believes that President Obama wants to lead the American nation onto the same road Germany took in 1933.There is a lot to cover in this book. Search on the internet and find it if you really want to know about the Hitler vs Obama similarities.I know I see it, I know a lot of other people see it.And I know anyone who is mainlining the koolaid will not see it. But who knows, maybe someone will get the nerve up and put down the koolaid, and pick up a book.Tattoo Gypsy[image] Sat, 23 May 2009 18:20:51 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Hitler-vs-Obama/BLOG/287337/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-05-23T18:20:51Z Politics MyFox Orlando This ought to pizz some people off.For a couple years now, people have been comparing Obama to Adolph Hitler. Which while they both made pretty speeches, I honestly thought was a bit much. Till I read a book written by a former Hitler Youth member.Defeating the Totalitarian Lie, by Hilmar von Campe, is the true story of a German Hitler Youth before, during and after the 12 years of Nazi rule.Mr. von Campe talks about a growing number of political developments have emerged which threaten American sovereignty, including the very real political similarities of Hitler and Obama.Mr. Von Campe shows how every day brings this nation closer to a Nazi-style totalitarian abyss.Mr. von Campe warns us that we as a Nation face greater challenges today from within our own American Government, than Germany did with Adolph Hitler.Just one of the subjects Mr. von Campe gets deeply into, is gun control. He says that the enemies of freedom do not like the idea of armed citizens and try all sorts of means to control or eliminate guns in private hands.He talks about how Hitler described on April 11, 1942, in a dinner keynote address his thinking regarding the matter of gun control:Quoting Hitler: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. I would go so far as to say that supply of arms to the underdog is a sine qua non to overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police." End Quote.Adolph Hitler made clear that his principle is valid to wherever somebody wants to overthrow any sovereignty.In the case of America, you just need to say "citizen" instead of "race" and you understand what that "somebody" means when he tells you his lies about why he wants to do it. It really is that simple!Mr. von Campe says "The Nazis also controlled the media, which fed us with lies about what they were doing and why."Pretty much the way the current media cannot ever seem to be straight with the American people about what is going on in our own government. Instead, we get an 'Obama politically correct' version of the media spin.Mr. von Campe also goes on to explain how the Democratic Party and Barack Obama would like to get a similar status of power as the Nazis had.The so-called Fairness Doctrine is a steppingstone in that direction. If you hear some MSM anchor say, "We have to have free speech in some kind of context," then you know what he is up to.Just look at the way the media fawned over Obama during the campaign. It's no wonder a lot of people state Obama was 'selected' by the media and not 'elected' by the voters.Different from any "normal" dictatorship, a totalitarian system goes after the minds and hearts of the population with the purpose to make them do voluntarily what the government wants them to do.Look at the distinct love affair, and even the 'worship' of those who love President Obama. This is the same exact 'love affair and worship' Germans first had for Adolph Hitler. Hitler was able to use that worship to his own advantage, and his worshipers would viciously attack anyone who would dare disagree with Hitler.Which pretty much sounds like Obama's followers, and even the media, and their vicious attacks against those who do not 'follow or worship' Obama.There was another Nazi organization that had the same task as all other institutions, namely to keep people under control and influence their thinking. It was the Service to Work.Young men had to serve half a year in the Service to Work before entering into military service.It seems that President Obama also likes this Nazi feature, because he has already created a national community service program, just recently passed into law, and in addition Obama plans to create a civilian national security. A force which some people may jokingly refer to as Brownshirt's, but nonetheless, is very comparable to Hitler's own SS.According to Mr. von Campe, Obama's motives for this cannot be all that different from the Nazi motives – to bring as many youth as possible under their socialist umbrella and influence.And for those who do not seem to feel President Obama truly is a Socialist, do your homework.Barack Obama was a member of The New Party. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JtTfGekhAhY/SQA32CKNgPI/AAAAAAAABx8/3ofJxBZBksQ/s1600-h/np1.JPGThe NP was formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America and leaders of an offshoot of the Community Party USA, and was an electoral alliance that worked alongside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. The New Party's aim was to help elect politicians to office who espouse its policies. Mr. von Campe also shows how Socialist Hitler was installed into power by the then German president, Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg.That made it easy for him to get the military leaders out of the way and in control of the armed forces – the only force in the country that could have spoiled his plans.Obama also was endorsed by famous Gen. Colin Powell with a well-calculated timing shortly before the election. It was a signal to the military that it was OK to vote for Obama.Germany at the beginning of the '30s was in deep economic trouble with about 6 million unemployed. Kinda like America that past year or so. And even more so this year.Hitler became the savior and fooled millions of Germans who adored him but had no clue what he had in mind. Once in power, he immediately began to secure his position. He eliminated all opposition and produced jobs for 6 million people.Hitler (like Obama) also started taking over various industries, banks, auto companies. Even 'working' with Volkswagen.No, contrary to popular rumor, Hitler did not design the Beetle. He did however help design the KDF. Which was a precursor to the Beetle. Hitler called the new car the "KdF-Wagen" — the "Strength Through Joy Car" — after the Nazi-led KdF (Kraft durch Freude) movement that was supposed to look after the working people.The same is true for America now in the worst economic and financial crisis ever. Obama appears as a savior without people analyzing his character and record. Spending money, taking over banks and auto companies, firing auto executives, promising millions of new jobs.Both men were or are not what they pretended to be. Both men used the catastrophic national economy to blame others for having created the desolate state of the country as a road to power.Mr. von Campe believes that President Obama wants to lead the American nation onto the same road Germany took in 1933.There is a lot to cover in this book. Search on the internet and find it if you really want to know about the Hitler vs Obama similarities.I know I see it, I know a lot of other people see it.And I know anyone who is mainlining the koolaid will not see it. But who knows, maybe someone will get the nerve up and put down the koolaid, and pick up a book.Tattoo Gypsy[image] acorn, hitler, nazi, obama, politics, socialism, socialist nonadult false Hitler vs. Obama text blog acorn,hitler,nazi,obama,politics,socialism,socialist 841 2 5.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 12 1 287337 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Named-Crooks-In-Congress/BLOG/286427/72667.html Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) released a comprehensive list of members of Congress under investigation.Currently, there are 16 members -- 12 House members and four Senators. The list includes which government entity is investigating the members, what the members are under investigation for, and the status of the investigation.For those counting, there are 12 democrats and 4 republicans being investigated.And yeah, left or right, they are all a bunch of crooks, IMHO.You can read the entire list here on PDF[image]LinkLink Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) released a comprehensive list of members of Congress under investigation.Currently, there are 16 members -- 12 House members and four Senators. The list includes which government entity is investigating the members, what the members are under investigation for, and the status of the investigation.For those counting, there are 12 democrats and 4 republicans being investigated.And yeah, left or right, they are all a bunch of crooks, IMHO.You can read the entire list here on PDF[image]LinkLink Fri, 22 May 2009 17:44:08 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Named-Crooks-In-Congress/BLOG/286427/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-05-22T17:44:08Z Politics MyFox Orlando Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) released a comprehensive list of members of Congress under investigation.Currently, there are 16 members -- 12 House members and four Senators. The list includes which government entity is investigating the members, what the members are under investigation for, and the status of the investigation.For those counting, there are 12 democrats and 4 republicans being investigated.And yeah, left or right, they are all a bunch of crooks, IMHO.You can read the entire list here on PDF[image]LinkLink congress, dc, obama, politics, washington nonadult false Named Crooks In Congress text blog congress,dc,obama,politics,washington 56 0 0.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 286427 4748444 Member 0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Your-ID-WILL-Be-Stolen/BLOG/286223/72667.html According to the Associate Press, another computer hard drive belonging to the Federal Government, containing massive amounts of sensitive data, including Social Security numbers and addresses, was lost, or stolen.The FBI is conducting a criminal investigation of the matter, according to Rep. Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.The drive was lost between October 2008 and March 2009 and contained 1 terabyte of data — enough material to fill millions of books.Committee staff members were told there is a copy of the massive amount of information, but officials have only just begun to learn what was on the drive.The Inspector General is investigating the situation as a crime with the assistance of the Department of Justice and the Secret Service but they have not yet determined if the loss was the result of theft or accidental loss.So why is the Secret Service also investigating? Well it seems this particular computer had a lot of President Clinton's administration information on it, along with Al Gore and family, as well as secret service personnel, and White House visitor information. But don't feel bad for Clinton. The IRS admitted a just few years ago, to losing THOUSANDS of Computers that had private taxpayer data such as Social Security numbers and bank account information.In Feb 2009, USA Today reported that the Los Alamos nuclear weapons laboratory in New Mexico was/is missing 67 computers, including 13 that were lost or stolen in the past year. Spokesman for Los Alamos, Kevin Roark said a total of 80 computers were lost or stolen in 2008, but 11 were recovered. A Los Alamos memo stated: the "magnitude of exposure and risk to the laboratory is at best unclear as little data on these losses has been collected or pursued given their treatment.CBS reported a while back, that the Census Bureau lost 672 laptop computers between 2001 and 2006, including at least 246 that contained personal data on Americans.According to a Tech Gen report a year ago, the American State Department has lost, or had stolen, upwards of 1000 computers, with a majority of those computers containing classified information and as many as 400 of those computers had belonged to the Anti-Terrorism Assistance Program which provides counterterrorism training to other nations.So here is my issue. The federal government in all it's wisdom (cough), expertise (cough), and security procedures (cough, cough) cannot even keep the information on a former President, Vice President, Secret Service, Nuclear Weapons, Anti-Terrorism, Census information, and our Taxpayer information including social security number and bank account information secure. And in this case, we are talking about keeping it secure with a relatively small amount of agencies and people having access. But this same federal government, wants to take every bit of our personal medical information, which you KNOW will include our full names, birthdays, social security information, addresses, work history, and any other information they can ask for, connive, contrive, or outright steal, and put it all on one massive 'federal government database'.All this information, in one massive federal database, to have allowable accesses from upwards of 10,000 different doctors, nurses, hospitals, and insurance companies, and potentially millions of people. The same federal government, who cannot even keep the information they have now from being stolen, or come up 'missing' with no phreaking clue as to where it is at, wants to put all yours and my, and everyone else's information, in one convenient database, and just let pretty much any idiot who wants to, walk off with it, or who has a desire to hack into it, have it right there for the taking. Your Identification is gonna be stolen. It is not a question of if, but with this sort of federal governmental FUBAR, it is only a matter of time. Tattoo Gypsy According to the Associate Press, another computer hard drive belonging to the Federal Government, containing massive amounts of sensitive data, including Social Security numbers and addresses, was lost, or stolen.The FBI is conducting a criminal investigation of the matter, according to Rep. Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.The drive was lost between October 2008 and March 2009 and contained 1 terabyte of data — enough material to fill millions of books.Committee staff members were told there is a copy of the massive amount of information, but officials have only just begun to learn what was on the drive.The Inspector General is investigating the situation as a crime with the assistance of the Department of Justice and the Secret Service but they have not yet determined if the loss was the result of theft or accidental loss.So why is the Secret Service also investigating? Well it seems this particular computer had a lot of President Clinton's administration information on it, along with Al Gore and family, as well as secret service personnel, and White House visitor information. But don't feel bad for Clinton. The IRS admitted a just few years ago, to losing THOUSANDS of Computers that had private taxpayer data such as Social Security numbers and bank account information.In Feb 2009, USA Today reported that the Los Alamos nuclear weapons laboratory in New Mexico was/is missing 67 computers, including 13 that were lost or stolen in the past year. Spokesman for Los Alamos, Kevin Roark said a total of 80 computers were lost or stolen in 2008, but 11 were recovered. A Los Alamos memo stated: the "magnitude of exposure and risk to the laboratory is at best unclear as little data on these losses has been collected or pursued given their treatment.CBS reported a while back, that the Census Bureau lost 672 laptop computers between 2001 and 2006, including at least 246 that contained personal data on Americans.According to a Tech Gen report a year ago, the American State Department has lost, or had stolen, upwards of 1000 computers, with a majority of those computers containing classified information and as many as 400 of those computers had belonged to the Anti-Terrorism Assistance Program which provides counterterrorism training to other nations.So here is my issue. The federal government in all it's wisdom (cough), expertise (cough), and security procedures (cough, cough) cannot even keep the information on a former President, Vice President, Secret Service, Nuclear Weapons, Anti-Terrorism, Census information, and our Taxpayer information including social security number and bank account information secure. And in this case, we are talking about keeping it secure with a relatively small amount of agencies and people having access. But this same federal government, wants to take every bit of our personal medical information, which you KNOW will include our full names, birthdays, social security information, addresses, work history, and any other information they can ask for, connive, contrive, or outright steal, and put it all on one massive 'federal government database'.All this information, in one massive federal database, to have allowable accesses from upwards of 10,000 different doctors, nurses, hospitals, and insurance companies, and potentially millions of people. The same federal government, who cannot even keep the information they have now from being stolen, or come up 'missing' with no phreaking clue as to where it is at, wants to put all yours and my, and everyone else's information, in one convenient database, and just let pretty much any idiot who wants to, walk off with it, or who has a desire to hack into it, have it right there for the taking. Your Identification is gonna be stolen. It is not a question of if, but with this sort of federal governmental FUBAR, it is only a matter of time. Tattoo Gypsy Fri, 22 May 2009 13:36:01 GMT http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_Your-ID-WILL-Be-Stolen/BLOG/286223/72667.html Tattoo_Gypsy 2009-05-22T13:36:01Z News MyFox Orlando According to the Associate Press, another computer hard drive belonging to the Federal Government, containing massive amounts of sensitive data, including Social Security numbers and addresses, was lost, or stolen.The FBI is conducting a criminal investigation of the matter, according to Rep. Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.The drive was lost between October 2008 and March 2009 and contained 1 terabyte of data — enough material to fill millions of books.Committee staff members were told there is a copy of the massive amount of information, but officials have only just begun to learn what was on the drive.The Inspector General is investigating the situation as a crime with the assistance of the Department of Justice and the Secret Service but they have not yet determined if the loss was the result of theft or accidental loss.So why is the Secret Service also investigating? Well it seems this particular computer had a lot of President Clinton's administration information on it, along with Al Gore and family, as well as secret service personnel, and White House visitor information. But don't feel bad for Clinton. The IRS admitted a just few years ago, to losing THOUSANDS of Computers that had private taxpayer data such as Social Security numbers and bank account information.In Feb 2009, USA Today reported that the Los Alamos nuclear weapons laboratory in New Mexico was/is missing 67 computers, including 13 that were lost or stolen in the past year. Spokesman for Los Alamos, Kevin Roark said a total of 80 computers were lost or stolen in 2008, but 11 were recovered. A Los Alamos memo stated: the "magnitude of exposure and risk to the laboratory is at best unclear as little data on these losses has been collected or pursued given their treatment.CBS reported a while back, that the Census Bureau lost 672 laptop computers between 2001 and 2006, including at least 246 that contained personal data on Americans.According to a Tech Gen report a year ago, the American State Department has lost, or had stolen, upwards of 1000 computers, with a majority of those computers containing classified information and as many as 400 of those computers had belonged to the Anti-Terrorism Assistance Program which provides counterterrorism training to other nations.So here is my issue. The federal government in all it's wisdom (cough), expertise (cough), and security procedures (cough, cough) cannot even keep the information on a former President, Vice President, Secret Service, Nuclear Weapons, Anti-Terrorism, Census information, and our Taxpayer information including social security number and bank account information secure. And in this case, we are talking about keeping it secure with a relatively small amount of agencies and people having access. But this same federal government, wants to take every bit of our personal medical information, which you KNOW will include our full names, birthdays, social security information, addresses, work history, and any other information they can ask for, connive, contrive, or outright steal, and put it all on one massive 'federal government database'.All this information, in one massive federal database, to have allowable accesses from upwards of 10,000 different doctors, nurses, hospitals, and insurance companies, and potentially millions of people. The same federal government, who cannot even keep the information they have now from being stolen, or come up 'missing' with no phreaking clue as to where it is at, wants to put all yours and my, and everyone else's information, in one convenient database, and just let pretty much any idiot who wants to, walk off with it, or who has a desire to hack into it, have it right there for the taking. Your Identification is gonna be stolen. It is not a question of if, but with this sort of federal governmental FUBAR, it is only a matter of time. Tattoo Gypsy care, database, health, id, identification, news, obama, records nonadult false Your I.D. WILL Be Stolen text blog care,database,health,id,identification,news,obama,records 77 0 0.0 http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4748444&as=72667 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/72667/photos/PHOTO_2617281_72667_4748444_ap_160X120.jpg false 4 0 286223 4748444 Member 0