The $787 billion stimulus bill was passed in February and was promised as a job saver and economy booster. Here is where some of the money went:
- $300,000 for a GPS-equipped helicopter to hunt for radioactive rabbit droppings at the Hanford nuclear reservation in Washington state.
- $30 million for a spring training baseball complex for the Arizona Diamondbacks and Colorado Rockies.
- $11 million for Microsoft to build a bridge connecting its two headquarter campuses in Redmond, Wash., which are separated by a highway.
- $430,000 to repair a bridge in Iowa County, Wis., that carries 10 or fewer cars per day.
- $800,000 for the John Murtha Airport in Johnstown, Pa., serving about 20 passengers per day, to build a backup runway.
- $219,000 for Syracuse University to study the sex lives of freshmen women.
- $2.3 million for the U.S. Forest Service to rear large numbers of arthropods, including the Asian longhorned beetle, the nun moth and the woolly adelgid.
- $3.4 million for a 13-foot tunnel for turtles and other wildlife attempting to cross U.S. 27 in Lake Jackson, Fla.
- $1.15 million to install a guardrail for a persistently dry lake bed in Guymon, Okla.
- $9.38 million to renovate a century-old train depot in Lancaster County, Pa., that has not been used for three decades.
- $2.5 million in stimulus checks sent to the deceased.
- $6 million for a snow-making facility in Duluth, Minn.
- $173,834 to weatherize eight pickup trucks in Madison County, Ill.
- $20,000 for a fish sperm freezer at the Gavins Point National Fish Hatchery in South Dakota.
- $380,000 to spay and neuter pets in Wichita, Kan.
- $300 apiece for thousands of signs at road construction sites across the country announcing that the projects are funded by stimulus money.
- $1.5 million for a fence to block would-be jumpers from leaping off the All-American Bridge in Akron, Ohio.
- $1 million to study the health effects of environmentally friendly public housing on 300 people in Chicago.
- $356,000 for Indiana University to study childhood comprehension of foreign accents compared with native speech.
- $983,952 for street beautification in Ann Arbor, Mich., including decorative lighting, trees, benches and bike paths.
- $148,438 for Washington State University to analyze the use of marijuana in conjunction with medications like morphine.
- $462,000 to purchase 22 concrete toilets for use in the Mark Twain National Forest in Missouri
- $3.1 million to transform a canal barge into a floating museum that will travel the Erie Canal in New York state.
- $1.3 million on government arts jobs in Maine, including $30,000 for basket makers, $20,000 for storytelling and $12,500 for a music festival.
- $71,000 for a hybrid car to be used by student drivers in Colchester, Vt., as well as a plug-in hybrid for town workers decked out with a sign touting the vehicle's energy efficiency.
- $1 million for Portland, Ore., to replace 100 aging bike lockers and build a garage that would house 250 bicycles
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As we all know President Obama has been offered, and accepted the Nobel Peace Prize. Could not this acceptance influence his decisions in the area of foreign policy? Not in a monentary way, but rather in the form of gaining and keeping international prestige?
Should not the President's foriegn policy be driven by what is in the best interest of the UNITED STATES ,rather than that dictated by the Nobel committee, or the love of the international community?
George Washington wrote in his farewell address on the subject of foreign influence: "As avenues to foreign influence in innumberal ways ,such attachments are particulary alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions , to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe public officals. ....
Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence ( I conjure to believe me, fellow citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake , since history and experence prove that foriegn influence is one of the most baleful foes of republican goverment."
Besides is it even legal for a President to accept an award from a foreign organization while in office?
In the Hertige Guide to the Constitution ,Robert Delahunty writes, "The delagates at the Constitutional Convention specifically designed the clause as an antidote to potentially corrupting foreign practices of the kind that the framers had observed during the period of the Confederation.Wary, however,of the possibility that such gestures might duly influence American officals in thier dealings with foreign states , the framers institutionalized the practice of requiring the consent of Congress before one could accept " any present , emolument, office, or title,from a foreign state"." ( quotes within quotes directly from Constitution)
Now ,some may site the instance of Thedore Roosevelt accepting a Nobel Peace Prize for his role in brokering the peace that ended the Russo/ Japanese War. Yet the truth is that T.R. refuse the honor( this was when the prize meant something) until AFTER he was out of office , and put the monetary reward at the disposal of Congress , and let them determine and decide it's fate.
Can President Obama say the same? Has he consulted Congress at all?
for the calling of more troops? here's a shared email..........VERY INTERESTING and again, I just had a feeling that there was more to this prize THAT MEETS THE EYE................OMG, NUCLEAR WAR IN 2012............ARE WE TRULY LIVING IN THE ARM-MAN-GOD-NONE.................
Remember in Revelations, there's a white horse (I will assume that was Bush, who brought much peace and things seemed more PEACEFUL) THEN there's a Black Horse (which very well could be Obama, bringing confusion and distraction, etc. and if you are not a democrat or part of it.....YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO LIVE SOON.............jmo)
and then there's this article:
New York Times columnist Ross Douthat notes that President Obama missed an opportunity to reject the Nobel Prize and instead put to rout the high expectations of his office. The implications of his decision to accept it, Douthat continues, will reverberate in every policy he pursues.
"Now he’s the Nobel laureate who has to choose between escalating a counterinsurgency in Afghanistan or ceding ground to a theocratic mafia. He’s the Nobel laureate who’ll either have to authorize military strikes against Iran or construct an effective, cold-war-style deterrence system for the Middle East. He’s the Nobel laureate who’ll probably fail, like every U.S. president before him, to prod Israelis and Palestinians toward a comprehensive settlement."
Every criticism of Obama's award includes similar concerns about "how it will look now." Is it okay that a foreign committee has granted an honor that can create such a tension, or grant a sort of greater peacemaking legitimacy, as Douthat suggests? The Times editorial page takes the point a step further, asserting with confidence that the prize is a repudiation of George W. Bush's foreign policy.
It looks like the Times editorial page is endorsing the very definition of foreign meddling in domestic affairs. Foreigners validating and then rewarding certain approaches while repudiating others is not appropriate, regardless of whether it's coming from six nations or six Norwegians.
So what is the propriety of a sitting wartime president accepting an award from a foreign committee that is merely an expression of repudiation for the behavior of his predecessor? It is especially concerning because undoubtedly, Obama's partisans will use the credential to grant him greater legitimacy in foreign policy among his own people.
That's an open question. But our democratic system already provides an outlet for such a repudiation, and it is the only kind that matters because it is the will of the American people. All others should be given the Giuliani treatment: Thanks, but no thanks.
This strikes at the heart of what I posted on Friday. The purpose of the discussion of the emoluments clause was to look at the constitutionality of Obama's acceptance of the prize. Even Teddy Roosevelt made it clear there was a discomfort with the legitimating power of the Nobel committee; Roosevelt refused to accept the prize until his term was up, and even then, he jumped through hoops to work with Congress to determine the use of the prize money.
In The Heritage Guide to the Constitution, Robert Delahunty makes the point that it wasn't merely the cash or a title of nobility that had the Framers worried:
"The delegates at the Constitutional Convention specifically designed the clause as an antidote to potentially corrupting foreign practices of a kind that the Framers had observed during the period of the Confederation. ... Wary, however, of the possibility that such gestures might unduly influence American officials in their dealings with foreign states, the Framers institutionalized the practice of requiring the consent of Congress before one could accept "any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from ... [a] foreign State."
By coincidence, Federalist Paper No. 22 uses Sweden as an example of the ability of foreign powers to meddle in domestic affairs. (At various points, Sweden and Norway have shared power, with Sweden running foreign affairs while Norway ran domestic affairs.) Alexander Hamilton writes: "And in Sweden the parties were alternately bought by France and England in so barefaced and notorious a manner that it excited universal disgust in the nation, and was a principal cause that the most limited monarch in Europe, in a single day, without tumult, violence, or opposition, became one of the most absolute and uncontrolled."
No one is suggesting that Obama will start favoring American fish trading with Norway. But as Ryan Sager notes in his post, gifts tend to inspire some level of reciprocity, whether they be from an NGO or a government-appointed committee. If Obama is going to be tempted to consider peace, let it be because it is in American interests, not because he wants to hold true to Nobel's ideals.
Given that most ethics rules governing Congress are as much about avoiding the appearance of impropriety as they are about actual impropriety, one would think this would be a slam dunk, at least politically, for Obama to simply say, "No."
Update: Here's George Washington on the issue in his farewell address:
As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. ...
Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government.
Update 2: This from Jonathan Freedland is very smart. He looks at the domestic politics and finds, shockingly, that yes, there do seem to be perfectly valid political reasons for this award. Look:
...[O]n foreign policy there is a Norwegian consensus. It favors multilateralism, yearns for nuclear disarmament, and believes in international institutions, revering the United Nations above all. This is not sandal-wearing Scandinavian altruism but hardheaded self-interest. Norway is a small nation that sits outside the European Union. Its best shot at influence is through bodies such as the UN. Plenty in Oslo speculate that Obama’s performance in New York last month—chairing the Security Council and using that body as the vehicle for his disarmament ambitions—was what clinched it for the Nobel judges.
And then this:
Even if that is fanciful, and even if the initial response has been unfriendly, the Nobel panel might yet see fruit for their labors. They stress that the Peace Prize is not only a reward for past effort, but also performs an exhortatory function. “We felt it was right to strengthen him as much as we can,” Geir Lundestad, the secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, told Gwaldys Fouche, the Guardian’s correspondent in Oslo.
Obama himself picked up on this notion when he noted that the honor has “been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.” They may have tied his hands—making it harder for the President, as a Peace Prize laureate, to take military action against Iran or escalate in Afghanistan. They will hope, at the very least, to bind him into further action on nuclear arms and to keep faith with the UN.
In their own words, this is precisely the sort of lobbying the Framers were concerned about.
Jazz Concert - "True Love" by Jessy J
On Saturday, October 24 from 6-9 pm, jazz comes alive at the Casselberry City Hall Complex, located at 95 Triplet Lake Drive. This FREE event sponsored by City of Casselberry, Smooth 103.1 WLOQ and SunGard Public Sector will entice all jazz lovers to gather and be engulfed in the enjoyment of the innovative, contemporary sax sounds of recording artist, Jessy J. Recently on the charts for 8 weeks with her #1 hit album, Tequila Moon, Jessy J will bring her luminous smile, sultry tenor-and soprano-sax playing and sensual singing to the mix. Her much anticipated newly released album, True Love, promises to continue her success. There will be food and other speciality vendors. Bring your blankets, chairs and friends to enjoy a wonderful evening of Jazz. For more information, call (407) 262-7700 Ext. 1120.
Art Exhibit - "Dearly Beloved"
During the Jazz Concert, there will be a special exhibit at Casselberry City Hall for “Dearly Beloved, where long-term love and art go hand-in-hand. This art show will be both romantic and artistic in nature and will feature Central Florida’s most successful husband and wife artist teams.
Swing "Fore" Arts - 3rd Annual Golf Tournament
On Sunday, October 25 come out and “Swing ‘Fore’ the Arts” at the Country Club at Deer Run in Casselberry. Tee up with other golf enthusiasts and enjoy a day of competition that includes continental breakfast, lunch and many great prizes. Join us for a continental breakfast at 7:30 am with a shotgun start at 8:30 am and it will conclude with lunch and an awards ceremony. The cost is $50 per player, $85 for a twosome and $150 for a foursome space is limited. All proceeds will go to support the art programs in Casselberry and Seminole County. Sponsored by the City of Casselberry, Smooth 103.1 WLOQ, SunGard Public Sector and many more.
Come out for a great day of golf and support the arts and culture in the community!
By Sher Zieve Monday, September 21, 2009
One thing that seems to be fairly consistent about viewpoints on Obama is that people cannot seem to understand what he is doing…and why. Obama’s new huge slap in the face to US allies in Eastern Europe—via Obama’s dropping the US missile shield project—seems to have left many of the talking heads stupefied; not to mention further angering the US’ soon-to-be-former friends whilst drawing smiles from her enemies.
These same pundits—both liberal and conservative—are also ruminating and scratching their heads in reference to Obama’s seemingly scattered mind as he pursues his Afghanistan project. “Does he want to win?,” they ask, followed up with “What’s wrong with him and why isn’t he listening to the generals running his war?” A newly leaked report-to-Obama indicates that without more troops Obama’s war in Afghanistan will be lost.
Obama, who now heads up the UN Security Council—no doubt in direct opposition to the US Constitution that he hates—, told an audience in Troy, NY on Monday that he plans to take over the US economy almost entirely. and transform it from free market-based to Obama’s chaotic Alinsky-Marxist totalitarian power grab. Obama advises that he will “improve” the US economy with massive and apparently unbridled spending on education and some nebulous “innovation” that will further gut and bankrupt the country. Note: This is, of course, patently insane. But, Obama thinks that the majority of We-the-People are equally as stupid as his adherents and most of Congress.
Per Andrew Breitbart’s site BigGovernment.com, Dictator-in-Chief Obama has now been implicated in yet another corruption drama. There is an audio tape of Obama’s Deputy Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement Buffy Hicks (who reports to Obama’s right-hand gal Valerie Jarrett) telling National Endowment for the Arts members how to push Obama’s agenda with their art. As US taxpayer dollars are openly being used to push the dictator’s partisan programs, this has now become criminal behavior. The only question is “how many crimes has Obama-the-usurper broken?” Coupled with Obama’s almost two decades long close ties to the criminal enterprise ACORN, this new illegal activity shows a pattern of corruption that is daily being exhibited by this White House and its pretend president of the United States.
By the way, the answers to all of those who are confused about Obama’s behaviors is he’s trying to destroy this country as fast as he can before the public wakes up completely to what he is! Do you get it now? Obama wants to take this country down…utterly and absolutely. And with no one stopping him, he WILL complete his masters’ mission. There is simply no other logical—or otherwise—explanation.
It has become increasingly evident that Mr. Obama must go. So, where are the elected leaders on the other side of the political aisle? Are they also frightened and submissive to Obama? If so, they are no longer doing our will. What good are they to us? At this juncture, Obama is a gnat’s eyelash away from destroying us all. So, folks, what do you want to do?
More troops or Afghan war lost: U.S. commander:
Obama Decries US Economy in Troy, NY:
Obama says will ‘improve economy with more and more massive spending’:
Part II, Communism and the Devilish Copyright Laws 7- 23- 09
∞ creativity × permutations = ∞ exponential decay ³
9/11/09 IS THERE ANYTHING UNIQUE IN ART AND MUSIC? As Cab Calloway sang, “a chicken ain’t nothing but a bird”!
9/11/09 OBAMA’S HEALTH PLAN and Republican greed ignore the one real way to fix our health woes. Copyright and patent laws, a government program to protect author and inventors should be loosened so as to encourage competition. Competition is the backbone of capitalism, and it equals cheaper prices and better quality goods. If we reduced the time of protection inventors have, they would face the prospect of losing their monopoly. So they might raise the price higher for ten years instead of a lower price for 20? Not really because they are already priced above what people will pay. Not every invention costs the same to produce. Ten years would encourage the inventors to stay active and work on innovations and newer products to replace those going into the public domain.
I haven’t heard one republican offer this idea to counter socialist health care? Is it because rich republicans and democrats have a vested interest in copyrights and patents? Are they all so greedy that they would ignore one real good way to fix our health system permanently? They make believe that this socialism will be limited to health care, but things have a way of growing, and there is no guarantee that one thing won’t lead to another!
7/23/09CAN YOUR ART GO OVERBOARD TO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN BY BEING TO FAMOUS?
It seems like there is nothing in the works on this thought. So, you know me I’ll address it! Most people would tend to stand by the notion that as long as your art is selling you have a right to make money. After all that is what capitalism is all about. However I suspect there are factors involved that rob us of fair play, and here is one right off the bat.
1. Some art has been around for a long time, and those works that would have gone into the public domain if not for the Sony Bono copyright extension were not being protected from infringement by the artist. The owners didn’t protect their copyright from infringements because of whatever reason, lethargy, etc. For a few years, possibly, they ignored infringers, instead working on new art or legislation to extend copyright laws. The atmosphere or attitudes created by a free unenforced market, i.e. they imitated the public domain, when added to other factors should equal a good reason to declare their copyright unprotectable.
What other factor could you add? 2. How about oversaturation of a product? A few years ago the “dollar” stores came into being because businesses produced more than they could sell. Remainders and damaged goods, overstocking, created an outlet where the people could purchase licensed goods for pennies on the dollar value. When greedy artists oversell their goods they turn good art into common goods. When a character is so well known for decades and is available through nearly every facet of distribution, and can be had for a fraction of the cost that other creators charge for similar art then you have overcooked that character. I have seen some works being given away free by the copyright holder, and that lends to the notion that there is no need to honor copyrights. When you add one and two together you have created a world where people believe that the art is free to be used in any way without the copyright holder’s permission. The fault doesn’t lie with the six billion people in the world, it is the responsibility of the artist to manage his business.
3. However the MAINSTREAM MEDIA CAN MAKE OR BREAK YOU! Was the movie “Tomorrow Never Dies” a prophetic parable? Was it meant as a warning to remind us that the ultra left mainstream news media service we watch on TV everyday is an evil conglomerate of contemptuous monsters bent on world domination. Do not for one moment believe they will provide fair and unbiased news. They are not going to jump on the anticopyright bandwagon because they own copyrights. So we really don’t have fair competition in a free enterprise system, that allows choice by the people, instead the market is controlled. Isn’t it so obvious, when you hear so much negativity about the paparazzi for years and then they show up as a mainstream TV show. The producers are so insensitive to human life they will have us listen to a story on mass death in some war torn country, and then in the blink of the eye the anchors are talking about rubber ducks or the latest fashion trends. Look at the recent Bottled Water story that broke a couple of months ago. The claim from the drive-by media is bottled water is just tap water and the empty bottles are polluting the world. Now I can demonstrate that bottled water is better than tap water using simple math. I don’t need complex calculus, or geometry, physics, etc., just simple addition to prove that bottled water is a good thing. First we look at tap water being filtered, purified and tested at the plant level. The government does a good job and when they are finished the water is shipped via miles of underground pipe to you. What happens to it in the pipe is your problem, but the water sent to the bottled water factory is the business owners problem. So it is filtered, purified and tested again before it is put in the bottle. 1+ 1 = 2 times the purification, filtering and testing. Just hold up a glass of tap water in the light and compare it to bottled water. Whenever I do it there is always sediment in the tap water and not the bottle. The largest Cryptosporidium kill in the United States was from tap water. Recently we saw a story on tap water that could be ignited with a cigarette lighter(methane contamination), and everybody has had a boil water alert at some time. As for the bottles polluting us, well look in your store and see how many bottles they have on the shelves, it isn’t just water, and that’s another issue. It looks like our legislators jumped thru the hoop again on this, as there wasn’t any legislation planned on bottled water until the media created this hype. Our politicians are worse than dogs trained to roll over whenever the TV news services bark an order. They don’t even question the validity of a story, as long as the TV say’s it true then we’d better do something! This bottled water story is global warming all over again. So I’m inclined to say if you have 1,2,3 together then that art needs to be put in the public domain so we can keep the competition fair.
IS SOME ANIMAL CHARACTER CARTOON/CARICATURE ART BEING GIVEN PATENT AND COPYRIGHT PROTECTION BECAUSE THEY ARE FAMOUS?
Herbert Rosenthal Jewelry Corporation, Plaintiff-Appellant, v. Honora Jewelry Co, Inc., et al., Defendants-Appellees. USC of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit, 1974
From AltLaw;
In this case the judges Smith, Hays, and Mansfield ruled that “since all turtles are created more or less along the same lines, appellant cannot, by obtaining a copyright upon one design or a turtle pin, exclude all others from manufacturing gold turtle pins on the ground that they are substantially similar in appearance. Clearly, a copyright does not offer protection of such breadth. “Unlike a patent, a copyright gives no exclusive right to the art disclosed; protection is given only to the expression of the idea—not the idea itself.” In Herbert Rosenthal Jewelry Corp. v. Kalpakian, 446 f.2d 738 (9th Cir. 1971), a case involving a claimed infringement of a jeweled bee pin produced by these same defendants , the court said: “ we think the production of jeweled bee pins is a larger private preserve than Congress intended to be set aside in the public market without a patent. A jeweled bee pin is therefore an “idea” that defendants were free to copy”. (446 f.2d at 742).
And God knows this direction applies to the human form of nature. In Ideal Toy Corporation, Plaintiff-Appellant, v. FAB-LU LTd. The court stated “Moreover, we cannot lose sight of the fact that “the test for infringement of a copyright is of necessity vague *** (and) decisions must be therefore inevitably be ad hoc.”. In plain language they said, we can’t tell the difference because all those doll look alike.
It appears obvious that the courts have judged that creativity in some types of art is not infinite, unlimited, and bountiful. We can clearly demonstrate that with the aforementioned cases. So the issue is, why has the courts limited their judgment to only a limited number of cartoon and caricature art. Bee brooches and turtle pins are no different than any other art that represents the mocked animal and nature scenes. The Rosenthal cases clearly show that the acclaimed and famous cartoon creations we see in everyday life do not deserve copyright protection. I can’t imagine a patent on a picture or brooch of a bastardized dog, cat or any other animal creation that is a nothing more than a minor permutation of the real animal. When you calculate the limited number of permutations that exist on animal characters and add that number to the Rosenthal decisions it appears we have a double standard of justice. Cartoon caricature animal art should not even have patent rights!
7-27-09
( In a telepathic message last night, one of you that had read my message, pointed out that the turtles shell is like a painters canvas, capable of transferring millions and possibly billons of expressions. You obviously disagree with the judge’s decisions in the Rosenthal cases. Unfortunately you are barking up the wrong tree with me. I believe most art is a compilation of patterns, and there are patterns of patterns, sometimes firmly imbedded within the mind, that you may not be aware of, but exist nonetheless. Drawing circles, or squares, triangles, and waves, with words, and animal caricatures, brightly colored can utilize millions of expressions, but they are just common and ordinary, and why should anybody get copyright for them?)
THE BEST WAY TO BEAT EM IS JOIN EM!
In an earlier post I had suggested copyright infringement bounty hunters. Since lawyers are the people keeping this copyright world going, because it is a lucrative business for them, I suggest we compete with them in fighting infringers. Take away some of their profits by using paralegal and online systems to start a business as independent contractors catching copyright infringers. One could contact copyright holders and offer to stop infringers “free of charge”. The infringer would pay a one time fee initially when confronted and agree to cease and desist any further infringement. This fee would sustain the bounty hunter and his paralegal sponsor, and the copyright holder would never have to pay a dime or even be bothered. With this type of system we would rid the country of infringers overnight, the tens of thousands of flea market and craft show artist infringers would go away permanently. The plus side to anticopyright is we would grow in numbers; more people would learn and understand what copyright is doing to our country. It’s sort of like a Trojan horse move; we will work from the inside of the enemy camp. TURN THE COPYRIGHT BUSINESS INTO A PARALEGL INDUSTRY! How about a full service online copyright business that could even defend you from infringement suits ?
Another Free Invention Idea
You have probably seen the clear bubble water walkers. How about an open air version? Using the same clear plastic to walk on water use flotation tubes connected like a paddle wheel to form a sphere similar to the bubble walker. An open-air water walker is more practical because you won’t suffocate or be subject to magnification form the sun light.
Here is another one: A seatbelt converter for those of us that don’t like them. Since the law allows us in some places to place the over strap under your armpit, you can connect it.
I OWN THE COPYRIGHT ON GOD! Is sure seems like some people think that. In reality they own a copyright on commentaries, art and the opinions they preach. How can that be? God gave you the inspiration, the dream, and the motivation to do works. Why have you turned to the government for their seal and stamp of approval?
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You can still sell your work without Satans stamp or mark. Yet you have obliged the devil for no logical purpose other than a cheap claim to fame. The little extra umph that makes you feel like it’s all about you. Are you happy now? You have belittled the name of God and defiled his works with the worldly government icon, copyright.
The war against copyright will be fought piece mill, one category at a time.
“Many of the modern buildings in Italy are historically known to have been built out of the pillaged structures of old days. Here we may observe a column or a lintel serving the same purpose a second time…I will pursue this rough simile just one step further, which is as much as it will bear. Suppose we were building a house with second hand materials carted from a dealers yard, we should often find considerable portions of the same old house to be still grouped together…So in the process of transmission by inheritance, elements derived from the same ancestor are apt to appear in large groups.” – Sir Francis Galton -----Just where did you art really come from? How much art with copyrights has been gleaned from old public domain works? The public domain is thousands of years old and has an enormous amount of art that probably has been lost by the ravages of war, climate and time. Thank God for the Golan V. Gonzales case, eh!
8-01-09
Raise the price of gas to $7 dollars a gallon to fix our recession problems! I know it sounds like an oxymoron, but hear me out. We Americans are a crafty lot and when the gas prices went up we were thinking about those new fangled hybrids. But who wants to be a guinea pig? Let someone else buy a Prius and see what happens to them. So we saved our money and the gas prices went down, and now we are all waiting for it to go back up again. Give the people what they want!!! You can give to the people and still get rich! The same logic applies to copyright, you don’t have to fine some college student $600, 000 dollars for downloading 30 measly songs. When you repress and oppress the majority you get nowhere, they will multiply like weeds in a garden, and with intelligence they will overcome. Tyranny and human rights ugliness is not the way to go. As leaders it may be hard to make decisions like forcing millions to pay more for gas but doing the hard thing can have it’s reward. People will adapt and they may be waiting for you to start the ball rolling.
3 august 09
Art and music is supposed to be a pleasant deviation from the realities of life. After a hard days work you relax at home and enjoyed a good movie and music. Instead it has grown to big for its britches. Because of copyright laws art is being represented as the number one reality in life. We need to cut the government umbilical cord that feeds the art, and that cord is copyright. Let the child grow up and take responsibility for itself. It doesn’t need to be weaned by the government mom anymore. Food, Clothing, Shelter, Medicine and God come first then a little music. Our arts have succeeded in hypnotizing us, and now they dance before us with a seductive influence that is only death and destruction for those unable to see what is truth. Strip them of their power before it’s to late. Like the Sirens of Ulysses they are dragging men overboard with horrible consequences. Do something, act now and put an end to this copyright nightmare.
Two former Republican members of Congress have accused their GOP colleagues of putting party politics over the Constitution during the Bush years, arguing that they failed dramatically to check the White House's use of executive powers.
Former Reps. Mickey Edwards (R-Okla.) and Chris Shays (R-Conn.) made the argument that if the Republican-controlled Congress had exhibited greater oversight during former President George W. Bush's time in office, they could have prevented some of the most calamitous results of that administration and even saved thousands of lives.
Speaking at a panel on congressional oversight powers, Shays argued that had more members of Congress, including Republicans, gone to Iraq and visited Abu Ghraib, prisoner abuses would have come to light sooner.
"That would have alerted the administration to what was happening, the command authority to what was happening and it probably would have saved a 1,000 lives," Shays said. Shays said the Bush White House abused its powers in a way that resulted in many of the domestic and international problems that have unfolded recently.
"This past Republican Congress hurt this administration by not having some hearings," said the Connecticut Republican. "Had we had hearings it would have nipped those problems in the bud."
Edwards was even more critical. He mocked members of Congress when it came to flexing their constitutional oversight authority. In particular, he lamented the House Republican lawmakers' unified opposition to holding hearings to investigate the firing of U.S. Attorneys by the Bush White House.
"One of the most shocking things was when the House voted to hold [Counsel Harriet] Miers and [Chief of Staff Josh] Bolten in contempt because they refused to obey a congressional subpoena," said Edwards. "Every single member of my party, except for three, walked out. Members of Congress walked out of the chamber rather than stand up as members of Congress so that congressional subpoena (would) be obeyed. Party trumped Constitution."
Both Shays and Edwards were known while in office to be relatively independent political figures who were willing to criticize their own party. Edwards left office in 1993, Shays in 2008. The event at which they spoke was entitled "Congress vs. the President: The Scope and Limits of Congressional Oversight Powers." It was hosted by the Constitution Project & Project on Government Oversight.
By Sam Stein
And, since I know you're dying to throw Shays to the wolves, here are some of the commitees that he was a member of during his 20 years in Congress:
Carl Eawwards led the field to green tonight at Chicagoland Speedway, within the first 10 laps David Reagen slammed the wall hard but he did not bring out the caution. Only 2 cautions the enite race both for debris. With 10 laps to go under caution Joey Logano was leading when his crew chief decided not to bring him in to the pits every one behind him did. Logano held off Kyle Busch to win his 3rd win of the season. Congrats Joey!
RESULTS
| 1 | 3 | 20 | Joey Logano | Toyota | GameStop | 195/10 | 200 | Running |
| 2 | 6 | 18 | Kyle Busch | Toyota | Z-Line Designs | 175/5 | 200 | Running |
| 3 | 2 | 32 | Brian Vickers | Toyota | Dollar General | 170/5 | 200 | Running |
| 4 | 12 | 38 | Jason Leffler | Toyota | Great Clips | 160/0 | 200 | Running |
| 5 | 10 | 33 | Kevin Harvick | Chevrolet | Jimmy John's Gourmet Sandwiches | 155/0 | 200 | Running |
| 6 | 1 | 60 | Carl Edwards | Ford | Scotts Ortho | 155/5 | 200 | Running |
| 7 | 17 | 16 | Greg Biffle | Ford | CitiFinancial | 151/5 | 200 | Running |
| 8 | 13 | 10 | David Reutimann | Toyota | Dollar General Big Stage Sweepstakes | 142/0 | 200 | Running |
| 9 | 15 | 1 | Mike Bliss | Chevrolet | Miccosukee Resort & Gaming | 143/5 | 200 | Running |
| 10 | 9 | 12 | Justin Allgaier * | Dodge | Verizon Wireless | 134/0 | 200 | Running |
| 11 | 16 | 29 | Jeff Burton | Chevrolet | Holiday Inn / Holiday Inn Express | 130/0 | 200 | Running |
| 12 | 8 | 99 | Trevor Bayne | Toyota | Aaron's Dream Machine | 127/0 | 200 | Running |
| 13 | 25 | 62 | Brendan Gaughan * | Chevrolet | 5-Hour Energy Extra Strength | 124/0 | 200 | Running |
| 14 | 11 | 198 | Paul Menard | Ford | Libman / Menards | 121/0 | 198 | Running |
| 15 | 26 | 40 | Scott Wimmer | Chevrolet | Stop Repair Bills.com | 118/0 | 198 | Running |
| 16 | 21 | 66 | Steve Wallace | Chevrolet | US Fidelis | 115/0 | 198 | Running |
| 17 | 18 | 15 | Michael Annett * | Toyota | Hype Energy Drink | 112/0 | 198 | Running |
| 18 | 14 | 88 | Brad Keselowski | Chevrolet | Degree V12 | 109/0 | 197 | Running |
| 19 | 35 | 27 | Jason Keller | Ford | Huggies Pull-Ups / Jewel-Osco | 106/0 | 197 | Running |
| 20 | 30 | 11 | Scott Lagasse Jr. * | Toyota | America's Incredible Pizza Co. / E-Pak Manufacturing | 103/0 | 197 | Running |
| 21 | 22 | 09 | John Wes Townley * | Ford | Zaxby's | 100/0 | 197 | Running |
| 22 | 4 | 5 | Ryan Newman | Chevrolet | Fastenal | 102/5 | 197 | Running |
| 23 | 34 | 234 | Tony Raines | Chevrolet | LubePro's | 94/0 | 196 | Running |
| 24 | 24 | 87 | Joe Nemechek | Chevrolet | New York City Bagel Deli | 91/0 | 196 | Running |
| 25 | 39 | 81 | Michael McDowell * | Dodge | D.H. Griffin Companies / Northern Provincial Pipelines | 88/0 | 196 | Running |
| 26 | 29 | 70 | Shelby Howard | Chevrolet | Foretravel Motorcoach | 85/0 | 196 | Running |
| 27 | 37 | 28 | Kenny Wallace | Chevrolet | U.S. Border Patrol | 82/0 | 196 | Running |
| 28 | 41 | 23 | Robert Richardson Jr. | Chevrolet | Mahindra Tractors | 79/0 | 195 | Running |
| 29 | 23 | 01 | Danny O'Quinn Jr. | Chevrolet | 7Up / Sun-Drop | 76/0 | 194 | Running |
| 30 | 27 | 26 | Dennis Setzer | Dodge | Fischer Honda | 73/0 | 194 | Running |
| 31 | 38 | 24 | Eric McClure | Ford | Hefty | 70/0 | 194 | Running |
| 32 | 40 | 61 | Matt Carter | Ford | Specialty Racing | 67/0 | 189 | Running |
| 33 | 42 | 07 | Mike Harmon | Chevrolet | Protex by Bardahl | 64/0 | 185 | Running |
| 34 | 5 | 6 | David Ragan | Ford | Discount Tire | 61/0 | 107 | Running |
| 35 | 43 | 150 | Jeremy Clements | Chevrolet | Graphic Arts Express / Bail USA | 58/0 | 92 | In Pit |
| 36 | 36 | 173 | Derrike Cope | Dodge | Derrike Cope Inc. | 55/0 | 24 | In Pit |
| 37 | 31 | 05 | Casey Atwood | Ford | 31-W Insulation | 52/0 | 19 | In Pit |
| 38 | 33 | 0 | Mike Wallace | Chevrolet | SponsorDavis.com | 49/0 | 19 | Out of Race |
| 39 | 32 | 178 | Kevin Lepage | Dodge | Derrike Cope Inc. | 46/0 | 15 | In Pit |
| 40 | 7 | 47 | Kelly Bires | Toyota | Construction Jobs.com | 43/0 | 8 | In Pit |
| 41 | 19 | 91 | Terry Cook * | Chevrolet | MSRP Motorsports | 40/0 | 6 | In Pit |
| 42 | 20 | 04 | Kertus Davis | Chevrolet | SponsorDavis.com | 37/0 | 2 | In Pit |
| 43 | 28 | 49 | Mark Green | Chevrolet | GetMoreVacati ons.com |
(Since this particular blog had to be as detailed and comprehensive as possible to withstand the malice of those who will attempt to deny its truth based on their own human prejudices... it's fairly long... so it's intended only for those who have the interest, or patience, to read it) ('Strong' refers to Strong's lexicon which is used by theologians around the world for accurate Hebrew translations.. 'OT' of course refers to Old Testament, 'NKJV' stands for New King James Version, ‘NIV’ stands for New International Version, and 'NRSV' refers to New Revised Standard Version')
In the early material on David (1 Sam 16-17), three times the narrator calls attention to David’s beauty – more times in the Bible than in any other case. First, the prophet Samuel notes that David “was ruddy [admoni, Strong #132], and had beautiful eyes [yapheh ‘ayinim, #3303, #5869], and was handsome [to behold, tob ro’i, #2896, #7210].” (16:12, NRSV) Then, when a young court servant recommends David to Saul, he describes him (among other things) as “a handsome [to’ar, #8389] person” (16:18, NKJV). Finally, the giant notes that David, his opponent, was “a youth, ruddy [admoni] and good-looking [yapheh mar’eh, #3303, #4758]” (17:42, NKJV). Here, the common language used throughout the OT to describe beauty is found again, including yapheh and tob (“beautiful, handsome” in both cases), along with to’ar and mar’eh (“[in] figure or shape”). However, new words in the David descriptions include ro’i (#7210, “a … sight [to behold]) and admoni and ‘ayinim, translated as “ruddy” and “eyes” respectively in the NRSV.
Jonathan’s intense love and attraction to David: Not surprisingly, after making such an emphasis about David’s good looks, the reader begins to find responses to this in the text. For example, in 1 Sam 18:1 we read, “Now when he [David] had finished speaking to Saul, the soul [nephesh] of Jonathan was knit to the soul [nephesh] of David, and Jonathan loved [aheb, #157] him as his own soul [nephesh].” Then (v. 3), “Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he [Jonathan] loved [ahaba, #160] him as his own soul.” Later, when the two make a second covenant, we are told (20:17) that “Jonathan again caused David to vow, because he [Jonathan] loved [ahaba, #160] him; for he loved [ahaba, #160] him as he loved [aheb, #157] his own soul.” (NKJV, underlining added) In addition to this, we are told in 19:1 that Jonathan “delighted [kaphes, #2654] greatly” in David” (NKJV). So, in response to three references to David’s beauty, there appear three references describing Jonathan’s love for him – two of them twice using the verb “love” and the third using the related verb “delights [in].” Strong’s lexicon notes that the aheb (#157) means “to have affection for (sexually or otherwise),” along with the related terms oheb (#159) and ahaba (#160), the last a feminine form. The male and female forms of “love” (verb and noun) appear to be used interchangeably in Scripture, e.g. in Song of Songs 2:4-5, the beloved [girl] says, “He [King Solomon] brought me to the banqueting house, and his intention toward me was love [#160]. Sustain me with raisins, refresh me with apples; for I am faint with love [#160].” (NRSV)
The Bible records three pacts that Jonathan and David made. The first covenant was made very shortly after they met. In 1 Sam 18:3-4 (NRSV), we read: “Then Jonathan made a covenant with David, because he loved him as his own soul [NIV: ‘as himself,’ nephesh]. Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that he was wearing, and gave it to David, and his armor [NIV, REB: ‘tunic’], and even his sword and his bow and his belt.” The preceding verses relate how after David had finished speaking with Saul, “the soul [nephesh] of Jonathan was bound [qashar] to the soul [nephesh] of David, and Jonathan loved [aheb] him as his own soul” (v. 1); and after this, Saul would not let David return home (v. 2). The emphasis here clearly is on the intense love Jonathan felt for David, expressed through the combined and repeated use of “loved,” “bound [to]” (this used only once), and nephesh, which indicates the extent of Jonathan’s love (as compelling as the love and interest one has toward oneself). Jonathan’s attraction to David appears in the narrative like a bolt out of the blue: spontaneous, intense, and earth-shattering for him. He expresses this love then by the giving to David all of the clothes he was wearing and all of the weapons he was carrying, the significance of which represented the entire “giving away [of] one’s own self,”.. i.e. the giving of his whole heart and self to David.
The second covenant was made near the end of their time together in Gibeah and is recorded in 1 Sam 20:16-17 (NRSV): “Thus Jonathan made a covenant with the house of David, saying, ‘May the Lord seek out the enemies of David.’ Jonathan made David swear again, by his love for him; for he loved him as he loved his own life.” (1 Sam 20:16-17, NRSV)
20:42 (NRSV) records, “Then Jonathan said to David, ‘Go in peace, since both of us have sworn in the name of the Lord, saying, ‘The Lord will be between me and you, and between my descendents and your descendents, forever.’” The repetition of aheb/ahaba (“love/loved”) and of nephesh (“as [much as] his own life”) in 20:17 is a very clear emphasis on this pact having strongly homoeroticized elements as well as political elements.
The third covenant was probably made several years later and is noted in 1 Sam 23:18 (NRSV): “Then the two of them made a covenant before the Lord…” the pact made in 23:18 is not merely “a simple extension or re-confirmation of the [earlier] pact” described in 1 Sam 20, for the later pact looks deeper into the future and “lays down the work distribution and relationship which is the center of everything.” The third pact is best understood as a “fresh, bilateral covenant defining their new relationship.” In fact, each of the three pacts, while containing a common core of expressed love and commitment, seems to differ from what was pledged before, and so advances in content and adds detail to their relationship.
Just as three times our attention is directed to David’s beauty (16:12,18; 17:42), so also three times we are told that Jonathan “loved” David (18:1,3; 20:17). Even though there are different forms of the word 'love' in Hebrew, the exact same Hebrew word aheb (“loved/fallen in love”), used in 18:1 referring to Jonathan, appears also in 18:20 referring to the princess Michal, where it has been rendered as “Michal had fallen in love with David”, or “…fell in love with David” Such a reading is bolstered by 19:1 which relates how Jonathan continued to take “great delight [kaphes] in David” (NRSV), since kaphes almost always appears in OT passages concerned with sexual desire and erotic love. This interpretation is further bolstered by comparing the Jonathan and David relationship to that of Shechem and Dinah in Gen 34, where the Hevite prince falls madly in love with Jacob’s daughter (underexpressed in the Hebrew, as usual, with “was drawn to,” v. 3, NRSV). Here we have exactly the same language as appears in 1 Sam 18:1,3 and 19:1, used to describe erotic passion which has led to sexual union – including “loved” (aheb), “heart” (nephesh) and “delighted [in]” (kephes) (34:3,8,19, NRSV), as well as the idea of “longs [for]” (kasaph, v. 8; J. Green: “bound [to]”), although 1 Sam 18:1 uses a different verb for this (qashar).
In 1 Sam 18, Jonathan and David stayed together in the capital city a number of months, perhaps up to a year, as David masters the arts of sword and bow (Jonathan at his side), gains real-life experience on the battlefield, and leads Israel’s army to many glorious victories (18:16,27,30; 9:8). However, in chs. 19-20 time rapidly speeds up. As Saul’s jealousy and rage toward David intensify, he hides his murderous attempts from Jonathan, while David’s life becomes one of terror, trying to keep one step ahead of Saul and his henchmen. Then, at a New Moon festival celebrated at court, Saul asked Jonathan why David was absent; and the prince explained that David had asked leave to join his family for an annual sacrifice in Bethlehem (20:6,27-29). “Then Saul’s anger was kindled against Jonathan. He said to him, ‘You son of a perverse, rebellious woman! Do I not know that you have chosen [bachar] the son of Jesse to your own shame [bosheth], and to the shame [bosheth] of your mother’s nakedness [‘erwa]? For as long as the son of Jesse lives upon the earth, neither you nor your kingdom shall be established. Now send and bring him to me, for he shall surely die.’” (1 Sam 20:30-31, NRSV). Then the enraged king hurled his spear straight at Jonathan, who jumped and fled in anger from the king’s table, realizing, at last, what a dangerous and deadly position David was in related to his father.
Although the first part of Saul’s insult is usually translated like “You son of a perverse, rebellious woman!” (18:30a, NRSV, cf. NIV, NRSV), the Hebrew is quite vulgar and would be more accurately rendered as, “You son of a slu.!” or “You son of a bi...!” In addition, Lucian’s version of the Greek Septuagint adds ‘gunaikotraphe’ (“effeminate man”) here, an idea which Chrysostom reiterates (ca. 400); so the original Hebrew conveyed something of this element as well. Then, the second part of this insult reads, “Do I not know that you have chosen [bachar] the son of Jesse to your own shame [bosheth]…” (18:30b, NRSV). Instead of the verb bachar (Strong, #977) in the Hebrew, meaning “to choose,” the more ancient Greek text uses the noun ‘metochos’ (Strong, #3353), meaning “to partner with, or companion with as a man would with a woman”.
The importance of the third part of this insult, which reads “…and to the shame [bosheth] of your mother’s nakedness? [‘erwa]” (18:30c, NRSV), cannot be denied. This final phrase is loaded, in fact, with sexual terminology, including ‘erwa (“nakedness”), most often used in the OT to refer to the genitals and the repeated bosheth (“shame”), which is almost always used in a sexual context. One really has to ask, what was Jonathan doing – nakedly, sexually and shamefully – to receive such an insult as this? In fact, the language throughout 20:30 is so extremely sexually-charged it goes well beyond rationality to believe that we are not meant to interpret it in sexual ways.
For those who will bend over backwards in an attempt to say it was only a 'friendship', I'd like them to share how many well-known examples they can provide of heterosexual male 'friends' making 3 sacred covenants of 'love' and devotion to each other... disrobing completely and giving their clothes, weapons, and heart to their friend in the form of a covenant... having the father of one friend insult his son in an explicitly sexual manner, and while also stating to the other friend that his love for him "surpasses the love he has for any woman." In addition, it goes beyond reason to think that a ‘straight’ man would instantly declare that he’s in love with another man at the same instant of meeting him for the very first time.
Regardless, by that reasoning... there should be hundreds of similar detailed, explicit, and well-known heterosexual examples readily available for someone to contribute.
The rain drizzled at Chicaga for a while but when the sun came out the stars of the Nationwide Series went to qualify. Carl Edwards was the fastest to capture his 5th pole of the year. Kyle Busch will start 6th. To see where your favortie driver qualifyed at look below this writing.
NATIONWIDE LINUP FROM CHICAGOLAND SPEEDWAY
| 1 | 60 | Carl Edwards | Ford | Scotts Ortho | 176.956 | 30.516 | Leader |
| 2 | 32 | Brian Vickers | Toyota | Dollar General | 176.939 | 30.519 | -0.003 |
| 3 | 20 | Joey Logano | Toyota | GameStop | 176.881 | 30.529 | -0.013 |
| 4 | 5 | Ryan Newman | Chevrolet | Fastenal | 176.835 | 30.537 | -0.021 |
| 5 | 6 | David Ragan | Ford | Discount Tire | 176.759 | 30.550 | -0.034 |
| 6 | 18 | Kyle Busch | Toyota | Z-Line Designs | 176.754 | 30.551 | -0.035 |
| 7 | 47 | Kelly Bires | Toyota | Construction Jobs.com | 176.742 | 30.553 | -0.037 |
| 8 | 99 | Trevor Bayne | Toyota | Aaron's Dream Machine | 176.557 | 30.585 | -0.069 |
| 9 | 12 | Justin Allgaier* | Dodge | Verizon Wireless | 176.424 | 30.608 | -0.092 |
| 10 | 33 | Kevin Harvick | Chevrolet | Jimmy John's Gourmet Sandwiches | 175.982 | 30.685 | -0.169 |
| 11 | 198 | Paul Menard | Ford | Libman / Menards | 175.730 | 30.729 | -0.213 |
| 12 | 38 | Jason Leffler | Toyota | Great Clips | 175.713 | 30.732 | -0.216 |
| 13 | 10 | David Reutimann | Toyota | Dollar General Big Stage Sweepstakes | 175.450 | 30.778 | -0.262 |
| 14 | 88 | Brad Keselowski | Chevrolet | Degree V12 | 175.171 | 30.827 | -0.311 |
| 15 | 1 | Mike Bliss | Chevrolet | Miccosukee Resort & Gaming | 175.109 | 30.838 | -0.322 |
| 16 | 29 | Jeff Burton | Chevrolet | Holiday Inn / Holiday Inn Express | 174.786 | 30.895 | -0.379 |
| 17 | 16 | Greg Biffle | Ford | CitiFinancial | 174.718 | 30.907 | -0.391 |
| 18 | 15 | Michael Annett* | Toyota | Hype Energy Drink | 174.374 | 30.968 | -0.452 |
| 19 | 91 | Terry Cook* | Chevrolet | MSRP Motorsports | 174.182 | 31.002 | -0.486 |
| 20 | 04 | Kertus Davis | Chevrolet | SponsorDavis.com | 174.137 | 31.010 | -0.494 |
| 21 | 66 | Steve Wallace | Chevrolet | US Fidelis | 174.120 | 31.013 | -0.497 |
| 22 | 09 | John Wes Townley* | Ford | Zaxby's | 173.997 | 31.035 | -0.519 |
| 23 | 01 | Danny O'Quinn Jr. | Chevrolet | 7Up / Sun-Drop | 173.980 | 31.038 | -0.522 |
| 24 | 87 | Joe Nemechek | Chevrolet | New York City Bagel Deli | 173.879 | 31.056 | -0.540 |
| 25 | 62 | Brendan Gaughan* | Chevrolet | 5-Hour Energy Extra Strength | 173.617 | 31.103 | -0.587 |
| 26 | 40 | Scott Wimmer | Chevrolet | Stop Repair Bills.com | 173.377 | 31.146 | -0.630 |
| 27 | 196 | Brian Keselowski | Dodge | ConelyAuto.com | 173.333 | 31.154 | -0.638 |
| 28 | 49 | Mark Green | Chevrolet | GetMoreVacati ons.com | 173.232 | 31.172 | -0.656 |
| 29 | 70 | Shelby Howard | Chevrolet | Foretravel Motorcoach | 173.127 | 31.191 | -0.675 |
| 30 | 11 | Scott Lagasse Jr.* | Toyota | America's Incredible Pizza Co. / E-Pak Manufacturing | 172.844 | 31.242 | -0.726 |
| 31 | 05 | Casey Atwood | Ford | 31-W Insulation | 172.469 | 31.310 | -0.794 |
| 32 | 178 | Kevin Lepage | Dodge | Derrike Cope Inc. | 172.430 | 31.317 | -0.801 |
| 33 | 0 | Mike Wallace | Chevrolet | SponsorDavis.com | 172.112 | 31.375 | -0.859 |
| 34 | 234 | Tony Raines | Chevrolet | LubePro's | 172.101 | 31.377 | -0.861 |
| 35 | 27 | Jason Keller | Ford | Huggies Pull-Ups / Jewel-Osco | 172.013 | 31.393 | -0.877 |
| 36 | 173 | Derrike Cope | Dodge | Derrike Cope Inc. | 171.996 | 31.396 | -0.880 |
| 37 | 150 | Jeremy Clements | Chevrolet | Graphic Arts Express / Bail USA | 171.734 | 31.444 | -0.928 |
| 38 | 28 | Kenny Wallace | Chevrolet | U.S. Border Patrol | 171.603 | 31.468 | -0.952 |
| 39 | 24 | Eric McClure | Ford | Hefty | 171.576 | 31.473 | -0.957 |
| 40 | 90 | Johnny Chapman | Chevrolet | MSRP Motorsports | 171.391 | 31.507 | -0.991 |
| 41 | 219 | J C Stout | Chevrolet | Stellar-Quest Racing Team | 171.352 | 31.514 | -0.998 |
| 42 | 31 | Stanton Barrett | Chevrolet | Circle K Thirstbuster | 171.179 | 31.546 | -1.030 |
| 43 | 81 | Michael McDowell* | Dodge | D.H. Griffin Companies / Northern Provincial Pipelines
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